ᐅ Semi-detached house – Troubles with the neighbor

Created on: 15 Apr 2020 15:43
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Sandrasix
Hello dear members,

I discovered your lovely forum thanks to Google. Unfortunately, as is often the case, a problem has brought me here.

We are building an extension onto an existing semi-detached house in Baden-Württemberg.
We are building on a slab foundation. The friendly neighbor built his half with a basement.
We live 70 kilometers (about 43 miles) away from the construction site.
Therefore, with both of us working and having two children, we cannot be at the site all the time.
Yesterday morning, the workers began setting the formwork for the slab foundation.
When I arrived at the site yesterday, my friendly neighbor was already there waiting for me.
He yelled at me quite loudly and was extremely angry.
He said that the slab foundation towards his side was insulated only with Styrodur (extruded polystyrene).
One of the workers tried to explain that in addition to the Styrodur, a 4 cm (1.6 inch) soundproofing wall would be installed along the house.
Still, he did not calm down.
He just kept yelling. He said he would take pictures and that he would refuse to pay.

We have no intention of demanding any money from him.
I was really shocked!!!

Actually, he should be worried, since he built 3 cm (1.2 inches) of his house’s total length over our property boundary.

What is the legal situation here?
I told my husband about it.
He wanted to see a lawyer right away.
For me, maintaining peace with the neighbor is more important.

Please excuse my spelling mistakes and my lack of knowledge. I have two children and need to keep them happy at the same time.

Thank you,
Sandra
kaho67418 Apr 2020 17:49
Steven schrieb:

That’s exactly what’s wrong.
The fault is in the system.
Oh, really? How do I make sure I get a piece of the pie without paying in? Seriously, I’m struggling financially and really need the money.
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ypg
18 Apr 2020 17:59
Joedreck schrieb:

I would never even think of discussing this with other people. Especially not with those who don’t have children.

Yes, I don’t discuss it either. Sooner or later, you get labeled as someone who hates children. Different rules always seem to apply to families.
At some point, parents get older, too, and become those who expect a bit more discipline from others.

Edit: The parents are usually well aware when their neighbor’s child is crying. Often you can hear the sighs in their voices: “...Don’t cry so much, Dad is right here,” “Yes, kid...”
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Sandrasix
18 Apr 2020 18:03
NatureSys schrieb:

This was supposed to be about the neighbors, not off-topic about retirement
We are on the way back and will respond later on the topic.

Our future neighbor is retired.
So there is a connection to the topic of retirement, albeit indirectly.
Unfortunately, I cannot contribute to that discussion.
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tumaa
18 Apr 2020 18:22
There are often screaming children and inconsiderate people who can become very loud, especially when drinking.

= both are constantly annoying

With the children, I blame the parents, with the adults, I blame themselves...
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Joedreck
18 Apr 2020 18:35
ypg schrieb:

Yes, I’m not arguing about that either. Sooner or later, you’re labeled a hater of children. Different rules always apply to families.
At some point, parents get older too and become the ones who expect a bit more discipline from others.

Edit: The parents themselves know when the neighbor’s child is crying. Often you can hear a sigh in their voices, like “... don’t cry so much, Dad is right beside you,” “Yes, kid...”

Yes, children or families with children are legally and socially favored. I basically agree with this and think that in Germany it still doesn’t really “pay off” to have children. Maybe I’m a bit more liberal than others. But I honestly don’t care whether someone chooses to have children or not. I sometimes long for the freedom of being childfree myself and fully understand that children can annoy other people—and indeed they do.
And even if someone hates children… so what? For example, I hate cats. That’s just how I am.
Still, I believe that children have the right to play loudly. Personally, I have expectations regarding how my children are raised. But I simply won’t discuss that because it’s just too individual.
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nordanney
18 Apr 2020 19:10
Joedreck schrieb:

Yes, children or families with children are legally and socially favored.
Unfortunately not – at least not socially. In that respect, we are unfortunately still a developing country. I always enjoy being with my kids especially in southern countries (including Latin America or Africa). There, children are seen as the most natural part of everyday life.

Here in Germany, you are often considered the odd one out when you have kids – with my (well-behaved) three children, you often get strange looks (in hardware stores, restaurants, hotels, etc.). It’s awful!