Development plan/restrictions – none relevant to us
Plot size – approx. 900m² (9700 sq ft)
Slope – yes
Site coverage ratio – see attachment
Floor area ratio – see attachment
Building envelope, setback line and boundary – see attachment
Edge development – see attachment
Number of parking spaces – see attachment
Number of storeys – see attachment
Roof type – see attachment
Architectural style – see attachment
Orientation – see attachment
Maximum heights/limits – see attachment
Other requirements
For your information:
The plot is located in the second row. Plot 68 is many meters above ours (196).
Direct neighbors are plots 62 and 197.
Access is via plots 192/195 as shown below.
Here is the neighboring development
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type – villa style
Basement, storeys – no basement, 2 full storeys
Number of occupants, ages – 4 persons, 2 adults, 2 children aged 1 and 3 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors – total approx. 150-160 m² (1600-1700 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? – family use
Guest sleepers per year – 10 to 20
Open or closed architecture – not too open, but not too closed either
Conservative or modern design – rather conservative
Open kitchen, island – kitchen and dining room combined as one open space
Number of dining seats – 10
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – yes
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – garage
Utility garden, greenhouse – no priority, will come later
further wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are desired or avoided
House design
Designed by:
- architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
- At first glance, all room requirements are met
- Open entrance area
- Transition between utility rooms and living spaces
What do you not like? Why?
- Living room in current form, as there is no stereo wall
- Children’s rooms possibly too small due to open space above (wasted space?)
Built-in wardrobe in children’s room 1 possibly to be moved towards the open space and children’s room 2 made square
- Master bedroom is narrow and corridor-like
- Connecting dressing room/bathroom can be removed as unnecessary, allowing more space for wardrobes
- Pantry should be removed in favor of more cabinets, which seems more practical
Price estimate according to architect/planner: no information yet
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: no price idea yet
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you give up: fireplace, open space above
- cannot give up: garage, utility rooms as no basement
Why is the design as it is? For example,
Standard draft from planner?
- After first conversation and written wishes
Which requests were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
- Basically all our wishes, just not yet in the optimal final form
What makes it, in your opinion, especially good or bad?
- Individual character
- Large kitchen/dining room as the most used rooms in the house
So now on to the drawings:
Plot size – approx. 900m² (9700 sq ft)
Slope – yes
Site coverage ratio – see attachment
Floor area ratio – see attachment
Building envelope, setback line and boundary – see attachment
Edge development – see attachment
Number of parking spaces – see attachment
Number of storeys – see attachment
Roof type – see attachment
Architectural style – see attachment
Orientation – see attachment
Maximum heights/limits – see attachment
Other requirements
For your information:
The plot is located in the second row. Plot 68 is many meters above ours (196).
Direct neighbors are plots 62 and 197.
Access is via plots 192/195 as shown below.
Here is the neighboring development
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type – villa style
Basement, storeys – no basement, 2 full storeys
Number of occupants, ages – 4 persons, 2 adults, 2 children aged 1 and 3 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors – total approx. 150-160 m² (1600-1700 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? – family use
Guest sleepers per year – 10 to 20
Open or closed architecture – not too open, but not too closed either
Conservative or modern design – rather conservative
Open kitchen, island – kitchen and dining room combined as one open space
Number of dining seats – 10
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – yes
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – garage
Utility garden, greenhouse – no priority, will come later
further wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are desired or avoided
House design
Designed by:
- architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
- At first glance, all room requirements are met
- Open entrance area
- Transition between utility rooms and living spaces
What do you not like? Why?
- Living room in current form, as there is no stereo wall
- Children’s rooms possibly too small due to open space above (wasted space?)
Built-in wardrobe in children’s room 1 possibly to be moved towards the open space and children’s room 2 made square
- Master bedroom is narrow and corridor-like
- Connecting dressing room/bathroom can be removed as unnecessary, allowing more space for wardrobes
- Pantry should be removed in favor of more cabinets, which seems more practical
Price estimate according to architect/planner: no information yet
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: no price idea yet
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you give up: fireplace, open space above
- cannot give up: garage, utility rooms as no basement
Why is the design as it is? For example,
Standard draft from planner?
- After first conversation and written wishes
Which requests were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
- Basically all our wishes, just not yet in the optimal final form
What makes it, in your opinion, especially good or bad?
- Individual character
- Large kitchen/dining room as the most used rooms in the house
So now on to the drawings:
I find much of it oversized and exaggerated.
I also don’t see the need for over 30 square meters (over 320 square feet) of storage space.
Don’t get me wrong: I’m also a fan of generous storage rooms and spacious living areas, but in my opinion, something is being misplanned here. Kids’ rooms larger than 20 square meters (over 215 square feet) – regular readers know how I feel about that.
Well, everyone likes it differently, to each their own, but the architect’s design was somewhat more realistic. Therefore, I don’t see a well-developed room program that was established _before_ the drawings and maintained throughout the attempts.
I can’t comment on the design based on the drawings; it’s simply a disastrous program and, in my opinion, should be prohibited.
Regards, Yvonne
I also don’t see the need for over 30 square meters (over 320 square feet) of storage space.
Don’t get me wrong: I’m also a fan of generous storage rooms and spacious living areas, but in my opinion, something is being misplanned here. Kids’ rooms larger than 20 square meters (over 215 square feet) – regular readers know how I feel about that.
Well, everyone likes it differently, to each their own, but the architect’s design was somewhat more realistic. Therefore, I don’t see a well-developed room program that was established _before_ the drawings and maintained throughout the attempts.
I can’t comment on the design based on the drawings; it’s simply a disastrous program and, in my opinion, should be prohibited.
Regards, Yvonne
The required space is based on the consideration of where everything should be placed without having a basement.
We currently live in a two-family house with a basement.
In there, besides bicycles, sleds, a trampoline, a stroller, and the beverage storage room, there is also a workbench including drill machines, a grinding machine, a TIG welding device, and not to forget, the seasonal tires for now three vehicles, whereas our own home will have only two vehicles. The laundry room is also located in the basement. Adding up these rooms results in the sizes we have been given in the plans.
Unfortunately, it seems to be more expensive to have these rooms placed in the basement, which we would prefer.
Due to lack of experience, I also don't know how to better design the upper floor. The children’s rooms are too large for us. But with the goal of having them on the south side, there is not much alternative. The placement of the staircase is one of the hardest parts for us in the design process.
We are satisfied with the basement so far.
The software we used is unfortunately the only free one I know of.
Do you have any recommendations for better options? Private messages are welcome.
We currently live in a two-family house with a basement.
In there, besides bicycles, sleds, a trampoline, a stroller, and the beverage storage room, there is also a workbench including drill machines, a grinding machine, a TIG welding device, and not to forget, the seasonal tires for now three vehicles, whereas our own home will have only two vehicles. The laundry room is also located in the basement. Adding up these rooms results in the sizes we have been given in the plans.
Unfortunately, it seems to be more expensive to have these rooms placed in the basement, which we would prefer.
Due to lack of experience, I also don't know how to better design the upper floor. The children’s rooms are too large for us. But with the goal of having them on the south side, there is not much alternative. The placement of the staircase is one of the hardest parts for us in the design process.
We are satisfied with the basement so far.
The software we used is unfortunately the only free one I know of.
Do you have any recommendations for better options? Private messages are welcome.
You don’t need to add up all the rooms to fit everything you had before. Half of it will be discarded anyway before moving.
If you drink wine, you don’t necessarily need a wine cellar; a trampoline should be set up, otherwise you won’t use it. For doing laundry, you don’t need 8 sqm (86 sq ft) of space either...
Building a house is about planning and designing – yet 90% of non-professionals think they can take over the work of a trained architect, which often doesn’t make sense.
And just to mention: every architect first takes up a pencil and discards many ideas. A layperson tends to get stuck and struggles with poor initial conditions, resulting in an even worse design because using software consumes time and deleting ideas feels painful.
Here the basis is an oversized ground floor, leading to oversized rooms.
The former freezer room, originally designed as a connecting space, is now just drawn in because it was planned initially. The cloakroom serves as a passageway to a hallway of nearly 20 sqm (215 sq ft). So now there are two passageways when entering the house from the garage.
In the hallway, there is only one wall where a dresser can be placed... In the living room, you sit with a view of two doors and the stove.
Regards,
Yvonne
If you drink wine, you don’t necessarily need a wine cellar; a trampoline should be set up, otherwise you won’t use it. For doing laundry, you don’t need 8 sqm (86 sq ft) of space either...
Building a house is about planning and designing – yet 90% of non-professionals think they can take over the work of a trained architect, which often doesn’t make sense.
And just to mention: every architect first takes up a pencil and discards many ideas. A layperson tends to get stuck and struggles with poor initial conditions, resulting in an even worse design because using software consumes time and deleting ideas feels painful.
Here the basis is an oversized ground floor, leading to oversized rooms.
The former freezer room, originally designed as a connecting space, is now just drawn in because it was planned initially. The cloakroom serves as a passageway to a hallway of nearly 20 sqm (215 sq ft). So now there are two passageways when entering the house from the garage.
In the hallway, there is only one wall where a dresser can be placed... In the living room, you sit with a view of two doors and the stove.
Regards,
Yvonne
If I had the money lying around right now, I would build the very first draft exactly as it was. Only apart from the trend of red-painted bay windows, which I really dislike.
Then somehow you got a bit reckless and decided not to trust the planner and their experience, which is legitimate up to a point.
Unfortunately, you ended up with model homes that are stylistically completely different, and you got carried away.
By now, the runaway horse has calmed down. The latest draft has once again clearly approached proportions that are feasible for construction and differs from the original draft mainly in matters of taste.
My opinion is: now it fits (again). Whether your opinion is "yes, now this is our house" or "we find it more attractive now than at the beginning," we other participants can’t judge.
I don’t recognize the Viebrock house style or details in any of the drafts, neither at the start nor when returning to the original concept, and only in the turbulent phase as the source of the rough floor plan layout.
During the stormy phase, there was a lot that wasn’t practical in terms of buildability, so the recycling bin was well used — but as a maturing process, it was still good and important. Now it almost looks like it did in the beginning, but only almost, and the chances are high that the changes have improved the subjective quality.
If you want to continue planning now, take a break and spend several weeks doing something completely different. Cinema, zoo, opera—whatever.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Then somehow you got a bit reckless and decided not to trust the planner and their experience, which is legitimate up to a point.
Unfortunately, you ended up with model homes that are stylistically completely different, and you got carried away.
By now, the runaway horse has calmed down. The latest draft has once again clearly approached proportions that are feasible for construction and differs from the original draft mainly in matters of taste.
My opinion is: now it fits (again). Whether your opinion is "yes, now this is our house" or "we find it more attractive now than at the beginning," we other participants can’t judge.
I don’t recognize the Viebrock house style or details in any of the drafts, neither at the start nor when returning to the original concept, and only in the turbulent phase as the source of the rough floor plan layout.
During the stormy phase, there was a lot that wasn’t practical in terms of buildability, so the recycling bin was well used — but as a maturing process, it was still good and important. Now it almost looks like it did in the beginning, but only almost, and the chances are high that the changes have improved the subjective quality.
If you want to continue planning now, take a break and spend several weeks doing something completely different. Cinema, zoo, opera—whatever.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Spacious, yes! But somehow I’m not really happy with the hallway with the staircase and the layout of the kitchen and living room. What Yvonne already mentioned. I can’t imagine sitting with guests at the dining table in the kitchen at all. The rest is... well, spacious. I usually like that a lot. But this arrangement, I don’t know.
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