Development plan/restrictions – none relevant to us
Plot size – approx. 900m² (9700 sq ft)
Slope – yes
Site coverage ratio – see attachment
Floor area ratio – see attachment
Building envelope, setback line and boundary – see attachment
Edge development – see attachment
Number of parking spaces – see attachment
Number of storeys – see attachment
Roof type – see attachment
Architectural style – see attachment
Orientation – see attachment
Maximum heights/limits – see attachment
Other requirements
For your information:
The plot is located in the second row. Plot 68 is many meters above ours (196).
Direct neighbors are plots 62 and 197.
Access is via plots 192/195 as shown below.
Here is the neighboring development
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type – villa style
Basement, storeys – no basement, 2 full storeys
Number of occupants, ages – 4 persons, 2 adults, 2 children aged 1 and 3 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors – total approx. 150-160 m² (1600-1700 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? – family use
Guest sleepers per year – 10 to 20
Open or closed architecture – not too open, but not too closed either
Conservative or modern design – rather conservative
Open kitchen, island – kitchen and dining room combined as one open space
Number of dining seats – 10
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – yes
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – garage
Utility garden, greenhouse – no priority, will come later
further wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are desired or avoided
House design
Designed by:
- architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
- At first glance, all room requirements are met
- Open entrance area
- Transition between utility rooms and living spaces
What do you not like? Why?
- Living room in current form, as there is no stereo wall
- Children’s rooms possibly too small due to open space above (wasted space?)
Built-in wardrobe in children’s room 1 possibly to be moved towards the open space and children’s room 2 made square
- Master bedroom is narrow and corridor-like
- Connecting dressing room/bathroom can be removed as unnecessary, allowing more space for wardrobes
- Pantry should be removed in favor of more cabinets, which seems more practical
Price estimate according to architect/planner: no information yet
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: no price idea yet
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you give up: fireplace, open space above
- cannot give up: garage, utility rooms as no basement
Why is the design as it is? For example,
Standard draft from planner?
- After first conversation and written wishes
Which requests were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
- Basically all our wishes, just not yet in the optimal final form
What makes it, in your opinion, especially good or bad?
- Individual character
- Large kitchen/dining room as the most used rooms in the house
So now on to the drawings:
Plot size – approx. 900m² (9700 sq ft)
Slope – yes
Site coverage ratio – see attachment
Floor area ratio – see attachment
Building envelope, setback line and boundary – see attachment
Edge development – see attachment
Number of parking spaces – see attachment
Number of storeys – see attachment
Roof type – see attachment
Architectural style – see attachment
Orientation – see attachment
Maximum heights/limits – see attachment
Other requirements
For your information:
The plot is located in the second row. Plot 68 is many meters above ours (196).
Direct neighbors are plots 62 and 197.
Access is via plots 192/195 as shown below.
Here is the neighboring development
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type – villa style
Basement, storeys – no basement, 2 full storeys
Number of occupants, ages – 4 persons, 2 adults, 2 children aged 1 and 3 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors – total approx. 150-160 m² (1600-1700 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? – family use
Guest sleepers per year – 10 to 20
Open or closed architecture – not too open, but not too closed either
Conservative or modern design – rather conservative
Open kitchen, island – kitchen and dining room combined as one open space
Number of dining seats – 10
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – yes
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – garage
Utility garden, greenhouse – no priority, will come later
further wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are desired or avoided
House design
Designed by:
- architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
- At first glance, all room requirements are met
- Open entrance area
- Transition between utility rooms and living spaces
What do you not like? Why?
- Living room in current form, as there is no stereo wall
- Children’s rooms possibly too small due to open space above (wasted space?)
Built-in wardrobe in children’s room 1 possibly to be moved towards the open space and children’s room 2 made square
- Master bedroom is narrow and corridor-like
- Connecting dressing room/bathroom can be removed as unnecessary, allowing more space for wardrobes
- Pantry should be removed in favor of more cabinets, which seems more practical
Price estimate according to architect/planner: no information yet
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: no price idea yet
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you give up: fireplace, open space above
- cannot give up: garage, utility rooms as no basement
Why is the design as it is? For example,
Standard draft from planner?
- After first conversation and written wishes
Which requests were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
- Basically all our wishes, just not yet in the optimal final form
What makes it, in your opinion, especially good or bad?
- Individual character
- Large kitchen/dining room as the most used rooms in the house
So now on to the drawings:
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Traumfaenger30 Jan 2017 22:32So, at first glance:
Ground floor: Why does the pantry need such a large window? Seems like wasted space to me.
The guest toilet appears a bit awkward and narrow; I’m not sure if that looks very appealing.
Overall, it looks like a waste of circulation space when you consider the storage room in the garage, the utility room hallway, and the entrance hall. Was this design really created by an architect?
Upper floor: I don’t find a bathroom/toilet with two doors very practical—it will likely lead to many awkward situations (I would remove the door from the dressing room to the toilet; in my opinion, that only makes sense if it were an en suite bathroom).
The irregularly shaped open space not only looks strange but will almost certainly be difficult to keep clean... I speak from experience with a 6-meter (20-foot) ceiling height in a gallery area.
The gallery does not stand out, because when you come up the stairs, you first face a wall instead of entering a spacious gallery area. I agree with previous comments that, in its current layout, the gallery is unnecessary. Was this really designed by an architect?
Ground floor: Why does the pantry need such a large window? Seems like wasted space to me.
The guest toilet appears a bit awkward and narrow; I’m not sure if that looks very appealing.
Overall, it looks like a waste of circulation space when you consider the storage room in the garage, the utility room hallway, and the entrance hall. Was this design really created by an architect?
Upper floor: I don’t find a bathroom/toilet with two doors very practical—it will likely lead to many awkward situations (I would remove the door from the dressing room to the toilet; in my opinion, that only makes sense if it were an en suite bathroom).
The irregularly shaped open space not only looks strange but will almost certainly be difficult to keep clean... I speak from experience with a 6-meter (20-foot) ceiling height in a gallery area.
The gallery does not stand out, because when you come up the stairs, you first face a wall instead of entering a spacious gallery area. I agree with previous comments that, in its current layout, the gallery is unnecessary. Was this really designed by an architect?
Hello,
That was exactly the question I reluctantly held back from asking yesterday....
Anyway, back to the drawing board!
Best regards,
Andreas
Traumfaenger schrieb:
Is this really from an architect???
That was exactly the question I reluctantly held back from asking yesterday....
Anyway, back to the drawing board!
Best regards,
Andreas
Hello,
Thank you very much for your feedback.
Believe it or not, this draft actually comes from an architect.
We are trying to implement the points mentioned in our sketches using SH3D to get an idea of the results. I would much prefer a proper tool for this, but this is sufficient for experimenting.
I will try to address the individual points in more detail:
- Cost: Should end up somewhere around 300k. Realistic?
- Guest bathroom too small: We agree
- West-facing windows: Should be larger, especially in the dining room. We agree here as well
- Pantry: Definitely going away
- Staircase on the north wall: Saves space upstairs to allow for square rooms in the south (children’s rooms, next point). The current reason for the stair position is to keep it away from the entrance area since we walk barefoot inside and don’t want to spread dirt around.
- Living/dining room: The sliding door is sacrificed for more space for the TV/stereo setup
- Living room: The exit to the terrace points south, and the wall runs through as mentioned above
- Swap children’s bedrooms with the master bedroom: Could be an option!
- Upstairs no longer has any floor-to-ceiling windows. This was communicated before but not reflected in the plan.
- Utility/technical room: Could be planned more openly. The reason for its size is the absence of a previously planned basement. Storage space has to be created somewhere. The garage is not an option as it needs to fit two cars, a motorcycle, a workbench, and garden equipment. There should also be a door leading from the utility room to the east.
- Garage: The dividing wall to the storage room inside will be removed. It should be open...
- Hip roof on the garage: Fits with the main roof, right?! It should also be used as additional storage space. Flat roofs tend to become leaky over time, which we want to avoid.
Apparently, quite a few changes still need to be made. Reading through it, not a stone will be left unturned...
That’s why we reached out to you all to get unbiased opinions.
On to round two...
Thank you very much for your feedback.
Believe it or not, this draft actually comes from an architect.
We are trying to implement the points mentioned in our sketches using SH3D to get an idea of the results. I would much prefer a proper tool for this, but this is sufficient for experimenting.
I will try to address the individual points in more detail:
- Cost: Should end up somewhere around 300k. Realistic?
- Guest bathroom too small: We agree
- West-facing windows: Should be larger, especially in the dining room. We agree here as well
- Pantry: Definitely going away
- Staircase on the north wall: Saves space upstairs to allow for square rooms in the south (children’s rooms, next point). The current reason for the stair position is to keep it away from the entrance area since we walk barefoot inside and don’t want to spread dirt around.
- Living/dining room: The sliding door is sacrificed for more space for the TV/stereo setup
- Living room: The exit to the terrace points south, and the wall runs through as mentioned above
- Swap children’s bedrooms with the master bedroom: Could be an option!
- Upstairs no longer has any floor-to-ceiling windows. This was communicated before but not reflected in the plan.
- Utility/technical room: Could be planned more openly. The reason for its size is the absence of a previously planned basement. Storage space has to be created somewhere. The garage is not an option as it needs to fit two cars, a motorcycle, a workbench, and garden equipment. There should also be a door leading from the utility room to the east.
- Garage: The dividing wall to the storage room inside will be removed. It should be open...
- Hip roof on the garage: Fits with the main roof, right?! It should also be used as additional storage space. Flat roofs tend to become leaky over time, which we want to avoid.
Apparently, quite a few changes still need to be made. Reading through it, not a stone will be left unturned...
That’s why we reached out to you all to get unbiased opinions.
On to round two...
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