ᐅ Two ovens on one circuit – electrician installed only a single electrical circuit

Created on: 2 Nov 2025 17:26
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dergert
Hello everyone,

I need your assessment on something that honestly left me speechless.

During our house construction, the electrical installation was done by the builder’s electrician. The oven outlet had initially been simply forgotten and needed to be redone anyway. During the conversation back then, I clearly stated that we planned to install two ovens instead of one – a regular oven with microwave function and a steam oven – and that these obviously each need to be separately protected.

Now that the kitchen is fully installed (including the granite countertop, everything finished), I operated both appliances simultaneously for the first time and the circuit breaker immediately tripped. When I looked in the breaker panel, I saw there was only one “oven” breaker, so apparently both outlets are on the same circuit.

Yes, I know I should have noticed earlier, but unfortunately I didn’t.

From everything I have researched so far (VDE 0100-430 and 0100-520), this is definitely not allowed, because the combined load of both appliances significantly exceeds the permissible continuous load of a 16-A circuit. Can someone with expertise confirm this?






















Overload protection Circuit must not be overloaded by two ovens VDE 0100-430 (433.1)
Dimensioning Circuit must match operating current VDE 0100-520 (523.1)
Separate circuits Each high-power appliance on its own circuit DIN 18015-1 (10.1)
Compliance Violation of VDE = violation of EnWG § 49 para. 2 EnWG


Now I am wondering if the fault clearly lies with the electrician and whether he must correct it at his own cost. Also, I’m interested in who would bear the costs if parts of the kitchen have to be dismantled for the retrofit. And lastly: What is the best way to handle this without the situation escalating into conflict?

I want to clarify this calmly and objectively with the electrician, but honestly, I find it quite incomprehensible – especially since the wiring had to be installed later anyway and it was clear two high-power appliances would be connected.

I look forward to your opinions and experiences.

Best regards
dergert
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dergert
3 Nov 2025 12:41
I just spoke with the electrician. After initially trying to deny it, he eventually admitted that he apparently dropped the ball on this. The plan does exist, after all. However, he also said that adding an extra cable now is "impossible." Then he suggested tapping into the circuit of another device. There are three other protected lines on the same row (dishwasher, Blanco water treatment system, and refrigerator).

Now I’m stuck between the opinions "It’s okay" and "Absolutely not allowed."

And I’m no wiser than before... What should I do? Am I the one stuck with this botched job and have to live with it? That can’t be right. 🤨
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nordanney
3 Nov 2025 12:49
dergert schrieb:

Blanco water treatment system
Something like a Choice All? That also consumes around 2 kW when heating up.
dergert schrieb:

Dishwasher
Also somewhere in the range of 1.2 to 2 kW on average.
dergert schrieb:

Refrigerator
For a newer device, you’re looking at only 0.1 to 0.3 kW.

==> I would then share the circuit with the refrigerator. Everything else is the same as currently having two ovens.
dergert schrieb:

Now I’m caught between the opinions “It’s okay” and “Definitely not allowed.”
Refrigerator is fine, and actually the second-best option after installing a completely new circuit.
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MachsSelbst
3 Nov 2025 12:53
nordanney schrieb:

The refrigerator setup is acceptable, or the second-best option after installing a completely new line.

It is not permitted. What you do with that is your own responsibility. Please stop giving recommendations here as a layperson in electrical engineering, because unfortunately, you have no expertise.
andimann3 Nov 2025 13:00
Hello,
“Impossible” is not the case at all; he just doesn’t want to pay for dismantling and reinstalling your kitchen.

However, you’re not really keen on that either, and it won’t make the kitchen any better...

Forget about connecting it to the dishwasher either, as they can easily draw 2 kW or more when heating.

Blanco water treatment system??? I had to google what that is... If it’s the heating version, it will probably draw significantly more than 2 kW. (Side question: how do you actually protect these devices from scalding risks for children or visitors??? A seemingly normal faucet suddenly dispensing boiling water?!? WTF??? That’s almost deliberate bodily harm?!?)

That leaves the refrigerator. It only draws a few hundred watts, but the startup current can be higher, depending on the type of motor used in the compressor. Whether these peak loads will still work well together with the oven will depend on the appliance combination.
What are the electrical ratings of the oven and refrigerator?

Best regards,

Andreas
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MachsSelbst
3 Nov 2025 13:00
dergert schrieb:

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There are actually three more separately protected circuits in the line (dishwasher, Blanco water filtration system, and refrigerator).
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You will definitely overload your circuit this way, because even the refrigerator with its 200 to 300 watts is too much when the oven with rapid preheating requires its full 3.6 kW.
What cable size is installed there? 3x1.5 mm² (3x16 AWG)? 3x2.5 mm² (3x14 AWG)?
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hanghaus2023
3 Nov 2025 13:02
Who will provide the refrigerator with its own dedicated protected circuit?