ᐅ Floor plan: New construction on an existing bungalow basement, one-and-a-half stories

Created on: 19 Dec 2022 01:12
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Mal Bauen
Hello to all forum members,

We are still relatively early in our building project and have many fundamental questions to clarify. Nevertheless, I would like to introduce the project here.

We recently became owners of a prefabricated bungalow from Streif Haus, built in 1987. It has a full concrete basement (by Betonkemmler).

Our plan is to demolish the bungalow down to the top edge of the basement and build a new house for our family (currently four, eventually five) on top. The existing basement (very solid construction) is to be integrated as a utility basement including a technical room. At the same time, the heating system will be modernized from oil heating to a heat pump.

Currently, we are in contact with both prefabricated house suppliers (Weberhaus, Danwood) and solid construction companies (Denkinger). The property is located in Baden-Württemberg (southern Baden).

Even though the floor plan is only a first draft, I would like to present it here for feedback (summary below).

In particular, I hope to get some thoughts on the following basic questions:
  • Has any forum member gained experience with building on an existing basement?
  • Is there generally a preferred construction method for our project? We are still undecided whether to go for a prefab timber frame house or a masonry (brick or block) solid construction.
  • So far, we have not discussed a double garage with the builders, but it will be needed. Where does it make more sense: northwest or southwest (directly next to the neighbor’s garage)?
  • To what extent can the project be treated as a renovation with partial demolition in terms of building regulations? Background: Are there any possibilities for funding (still) available?
  • What we want to achieve with the floor plan is short walking distances inside and around the house. Therefore, the main entrance was moved from the north side to the west side. However, since it is on the short side of the house, this results in more corridor space and longer routes inside (e.g., from the front door to the stairs to the upper floor). But as the saying goes, you have to accept some drawbacks — what is your opinion: front door facing north or west?

Here is the summary sheet (key points).

Many thanks in advance for your input, comments, and critiques. I will gladly report further developments here in the thread.

Development Plan / Restrictions
Size of the plot:
615m² (6620 sq ft)
Slope: North/South: <0.5m (1.6 ft) over 18m (59 ft), West-East: approx. 2m (6.6 ft) over 33m (108 ft) (see elevation profile)
Site coverage ratio: No development plan (Section 34 of German Building Code). The immediate neighborhood contains some generously built plots. We do not want to change the building footprint of the existing house but want to add a double garage (not currently present).
Floor area ratio: No development plan (Section 34 of German Building Code)
Building envelope, building line and boundary: No development plan (Section 34 of German Building Code). Property boundaries and existing building shown in aerial photo attached
Edge development: None
Number of parking spaces: None
Number of floors: 1.5 stories
Roof type: Gable roof
Architectural style: Modern detached family house
Orientation: see aerial photo. Entrance (currently): north
Maximum height/limits: No development plan
Immediate neighbors: Northern neighbor: 2 stories with flat roof. Southern: 1.5 stories with hipped roof. Western: 1.5 stories with gable roof.

Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type:
We want to transform the existing bungalow into a classic 1.5-story detached house with a gable roof and possibly shed dormers.
Basement, floors: Utility basement (existing, concrete basement), ground floor (living), upper floor (sleeping)
Number of persons, ages: Our family currently has four members (ages: 32, 30, 2, 0), with another child planned
Space requirements on ground and upper floor:
Ground floor: living room, kitchen (possibly with pantry), room for home office or guest room, guest WC with shower, cloakroom
Upper floor: master bedroom, 3 children’s bedrooms, bathroom
Office: family use or home office: Home office (100% for me)
Overnight guests per year: Few, less than 5 guests/nights
Open or closed architecture: Rather closed. Ability to separate kitchen and living room would be desirable.
Conservative or modern design: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Kitchen island not mandatory. Partly open kitchen: separation from living room would be good.
Number of dining seats: 5-8
Fireplace: Only if budget allows, not mandatory
Music/ stereo wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Further wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons for preferences or exclusions: The technical room should be located in the existing basement (e.g., in the former oil heating room). A sensible circulation concept is very important: front door/upper floor stairs/basement stairs. Ideally, short distances between garage and house as well as good accessibility of rooms within the house.

House Design
Designed by:
Initial draft from the prefab house supplier after first meeting
What do you especially like? Why?: (Almost) all room requests fulfilled. Good accessibility of upper floor rooms via centrally located landing. Short distances from garage to house thanks to new front door position (west instead of north). Spacious cloakroom area. Living room oriented south/east with a nice view.
What do you not like? Why?: The draft was created after an initial discussion of the project. Some ideas and preferences developed or changed later on by us:
- Existing concrete stairs in the basement will not be used, causing extra costs for upgrading the basement (new stairs, new room layout).
- (Small) pantry for food/storage on the ground floor would be great
- Better separation of kitchen and living room is desirable
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 520,000 € (approx. $560,000), turnkey (including 10kWp photovoltaic system with 10kW storage, fresh air heating with air-to-air heat pump), excluding demolition of existing bungalow, double garage, incidental building costs
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 700,000 € (rough estimate: demolition down to top of basement: 30,000 €, house: 530,000 €, incidental costs including basement statics: 50,000 €, double garage: 30,000 €, kitchen/furniture: 40,000 €, landscaping: 20,000 €)
Preferred heating technology: Heat pump with underfloor heating. If budget allows: ground-source heat pump with deep geothermal drilling. The prefab house supplier prefers fresh air heating.

If you had to give up something, which details or add-ons could you do without: Fireplace, new basement stairs
What can you absolutely not do without: Home office

Why is the design like it is now?
Individualized draft by the prefab supplier adapted to the existing basement footprint after discussing our rough (space) requirements.

Architectural drawing of a house with north, east, west, and south views and trees.


Floor plan of house: living and dining area, kitchen, bedroom, guest room, bathroom, hallway, terrace.


Floor plan of house: basement with storage, laundry, equipment, hallway, heating.


Cross-section of residential building with roof structure, ground floor, basement, stairs, and foundations.


Floor plan of house: bathroom on left, master bedroom bottom left, rooms 1–3 and landing in the center.


Floor plan of house: kitchen, dining/living room, foyer, cloakroom, shower bath, office/guest.


Floor plan basement: rooms basement 1, basement 3, installation, hallway, stairs.


Architectural plan: two section drawings (Section 1 and 2) of a building with orange lines and dimensions.


Aerial photo: plot marked with blue rectangle for house; entrance, dimensions 18m × 33m, 615m².
Nida35a4 Apr 2023 10:05
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

I would plan something like this.
I can already picture the kids’ rooms with an open roof structure and a cool loft bed up there. 🙂
That way, the 13 sqm (140 sq ft) instantly feel more like 20 sqm (215 sq ft).
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Mal Bauen
9 Apr 2023 11:03
11ant schrieb:

The manufacturer can also "imagine" that and offers both building materials in their range.

The construction manager at least said that "his" companies can work well with both types of bricks.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

I would plan something like that. In my opinion, the roof frame can be completely reused. These are all prefabricated elements, after all.

A staggered mono-pitched roof looks a bit too modern for our taste, but it would definitely be a sustainable building method. The roof frame (individual rafters, purlins, battens, I assume?) would be temporarily stored by the timber specialist between the dismantling and reconstruction phases?
The current roof has no insulation and no intermediate purlins (I posted an interior photo in post #27). Do some components need to be replaced or strengthened for external (above rafter) insulation, photovoltaics, etc.?
Has anyone done this here before?
Nida35a schrieb:

I can already see the kids’ rooms with exposed roof beams and a cool loft bed up there. 🙂
Then the 13sqm (140 sq ft) becomes more than 20sqm (215 sq ft) right away.

Yes, we also think that’s a nice idea. We had also discussed a partially open roof frame (and reducing the attic space by about one third but still keeping it usable). That would also be possible with a gable roof.
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hanghaus2023
9 Apr 2023 14:03
Mal Bauen schrieb:

Such a staggered shed roof looks a bit too modern for our taste, but it would certainly be a sustainable construction method. The roof frame (individual rafters, purlins, battens, I assume?) will then be temporarily stored by the timber builder between demolition and reconstruction?
The current roof has no insulation and no collar beams (I showed a picture from the inside in post #27). Do any components need to be replaced or reinforced for insulation above the rafters, photovoltaic panels, etc.?
Has anyone here done this before?

The roof frame consists of elements that can be fully reused. I do not find the existing roof frame suitable for insulation above the rafters. I suspect the rafters have a cross section of 8cm by 20cm (3 inches by 8 inches), so insulation between the rafters is recommended, possibly supplemented by insulation above the rafters.

Temporary storage on the construction site saves transport and storage costs.
11ant9 Apr 2023 14:10
Mal Bauen schrieb:

The site manager said at least that "his" companies are both skilled at working with bricks.

For me, both brick and wood remain strong contenders.
Mal Bauen schrieb:

A staggered mono-pitched roof is probably a bit too modern for our taste, but it would certainly be a sustainable construction method. The roof structure (individual rafters, purlins, battens, I assume?) will then be stored temporarily by the timber builder between demolition and new construction?
The current roof has no insulation and no middle purlins (I showed an interior picture in post #27). Will some components need to be replaced or reinforced for continuous insulation above the rafters, photovoltaics, etc.?
Has anyone done this before?

That was often done in the past, with some roofs still stable today, last rebuilt around Mozart’s lifetime and with individual beams replaced during the imperial era. Except for the rarely reused battens, your assumptions are correct. Having no middle purlins currently is actually an advantage, making it easier to plan any newly added purlins flexibly. I am a supporter of fully covering a gable or mono-pitched roof with appropriate systems rather than installing things like roof racks on top. In my view, suspended solutions make sense for retrofits and partial coverage, but are otherwise second best.
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Mal Bauen
4 Jun 2023 22:37
Slow and steady wins the race...

After some back and forth (including involvement of the structural engineer and a change of architect), there is an update on the floor plan. In the plans, south is always at the top.

Changes compared to the last version (from top to bottom):
  • Knee wall raised to 1m (3.3 feet)
  • No more "recessed" balcony. Balcony now flush with the gable wall (1.50m (5 feet) deep)
  • Master bedroom with walk-in closet area
  • Enlarged ground floor hallway (due to extended cantilever slab at basement ceiling)
  • Additional support in the kitchen
  • Removal of one of two terraces
What is still not satisfactory:
  • Child room 3 too narrow and long
  • Bedroom too large (option: move wall to the right side in favor of child room 1)
  • Dormer window not centered in the dormer
What is yet to come:
  • Separation of living area (for example, sliding door)
  • Bathroom and/or child room 3 with high ceilings up to the roof

The structural engineer is currently calculating everything. Next, the plans will go to the energy consultant before the building permit / planning permission is submitted shortly thereafter.
Does the forum community have any comments, suggestions, or criticism?
Ground floor plan with terrace: kitchen/dining/living, guest/office, hallway, utility room, shower/toilet.

Floor plan of an upper floor: bedroom, 3 child rooms, dressing room, bathroom, balcony, corridor.

Technical section of a house with roof, stairs, three levels, and dimensions.

Basement floor plan with heating room, utility room, corridor, and cellar.
11ant5 Jun 2023 01:08
Mal Bauen schrieb:

No more "recessed" balcony. Balcony aligns flush with the gable wall (1.50 m depth (5 feet))

The question marks after this balcony itself do not change anything.
Mal Bauen schrieb:

Bedroom too large (option: move the wall to the right according to the plan in favor of Child 1)

And also move the wall between Child 2 and Child 1 at the same time; in the swap, the wall between Child 3 and Child 2 moves as well.
Mal Bauen schrieb:

Dormer window not centered in the dormer

Not game-changing and of no moral significance.

I would leave out the wall between the staircase and the built-in shelf.
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