ᐅ Floor plan design for 4 people, building volume predetermined
Created on: 20 Feb 2023 14:20
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Sumi2188
Hello everyone,
We are a family of four (children aged 4 and 13) and have been trying since 2017 to obtain a building permit for a plot of land owned by my parents, located south of Potsdam.
The main challenge is the location of the property. Since my parents’ house is the last house on the street, the residential area also ends there, and despite having 10 hectares (25 acres) of land, our building options are extremely limited. After a long legal dispute, we have at least secured a preliminary approval for a building permit. However, this comes with the compromise that the new building must be constructed on the current site of an old barn (key point: model effect when building in rural areas) and must adhere to the barn’s existing volume. We need to demolish the barn and then build our new home on that spot, which means we have very strict requirements for the floor plan.
We have had an official site plan prepared. Since our original plan (an L-shaped bungalow) was basically the opposite of the current planning, I would be very grateful for any advice on room layout and orientation, as I have not found a good approach so far. The barn’s footprint can only be shifted along the axis to the extent that the property boundaries do not overlap. According to the building authority, a wall thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is allowed as an increase in volume, but any further enlargement (bay windows, altered roof pitch, etc.) is not permitted. Our equity amounts to around 250,000 €.
We already have a planning meeting scheduled with an architect (March 1, 2023), but it would be great to get some ideas here on what we should consider beforehand. Perhaps someone has similar dimensions and ideas on how to create a nice floor plan.
Zoning/Restrictions
Plot size: Currently not fixed. Between 2,000 and 3,000 m² (22,000 and 32,000 sq ft), but the buildable area is fixed.
Slope: No
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Predefined
Basement, floors: No basement
Number of occupants, ages: 4, two adults and two children (4 and 13 years)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Predefined
Office: Family use or home office? Originally planned to include an office (husband is a teacher), but there is currently an alternative that can still be used. An office would be nice but only if it does not significantly reduce space for other rooms.
Guest bedrooms per year: Not relevant
Open or closed architecture: Open-plan living/kitchen, otherwise closed
Conventional or modern style: Rather conventional
Open kitchen, island: Open-plan living/kitchen, an island would be great.
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes
Music/stereo wall: Not relevant
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Already available
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: Not relevant
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
Thank you very much
Sumi
We are a family of four (children aged 4 and 13) and have been trying since 2017 to obtain a building permit for a plot of land owned by my parents, located south of Potsdam.
The main challenge is the location of the property. Since my parents’ house is the last house on the street, the residential area also ends there, and despite having 10 hectares (25 acres) of land, our building options are extremely limited. After a long legal dispute, we have at least secured a preliminary approval for a building permit. However, this comes with the compromise that the new building must be constructed on the current site of an old barn (key point: model effect when building in rural areas) and must adhere to the barn’s existing volume. We need to demolish the barn and then build our new home on that spot, which means we have very strict requirements for the floor plan.
We have had an official site plan prepared. Since our original plan (an L-shaped bungalow) was basically the opposite of the current planning, I would be very grateful for any advice on room layout and orientation, as I have not found a good approach so far. The barn’s footprint can only be shifted along the axis to the extent that the property boundaries do not overlap. According to the building authority, a wall thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is allowed as an increase in volume, but any further enlargement (bay windows, altered roof pitch, etc.) is not permitted. Our equity amounts to around 250,000 €.
We already have a planning meeting scheduled with an architect (March 1, 2023), but it would be great to get some ideas here on what we should consider beforehand. Perhaps someone has similar dimensions and ideas on how to create a nice floor plan.
Zoning/Restrictions
Plot size: Currently not fixed. Between 2,000 and 3,000 m² (22,000 and 32,000 sq ft), but the buildable area is fixed.
Slope: No
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Predefined
Basement, floors: No basement
Number of occupants, ages: 4, two adults and two children (4 and 13 years)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Predefined
Office: Family use or home office? Originally planned to include an office (husband is a teacher), but there is currently an alternative that can still be used. An office would be nice but only if it does not significantly reduce space for other rooms.
Guest bedrooms per year: Not relevant
Open or closed architecture: Open-plan living/kitchen, otherwise closed
Conventional or modern style: Rather conventional
Open kitchen, island: Open-plan living/kitchen, an island would be great.
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes
Music/stereo wall: Not relevant
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Already available
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: Not relevant
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
Thank you very much
Sumi
prm2021 schrieb:
There isn’t a very good floor plan available online for a smaller house without a basement.
Maybe optimize and slightly enlarge the Raumwunder 114. Going from 114 to 92 sqm (1,228 to 990 sq ft) would actually be a downsizing, or to put it in plain terms, a reduction.
prm2021 schrieb:
But good sketches of such downsized prefabricated houses under 130 sqm (1,399 sq ft) are hard to find ... good luck! I’m looking for something similar to TE. You can only downsize a functional design if it is originally generously sized. However, that is not the case with catalog homes designed for average earners; these house plans are "slim fit" in every size. When you reduce them, unfortunately you always reduce their functionality as well. The same roughly applies if you try to add an extra room into such a design. So consider whether a house planned for a family with two children might still be a welcome improvement for a family with three children compared to living in a rental. The fairy tales always grant you three wishes—three meaning exactly three, not pi and certainly not three and a half (or sometimes even four on Sundays). If that doesn’t suit you, you can write a letter to the fairy ministry—but I don’t think that will help.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
Reducing from 114 to 92 square meters (990 to 990 square feet) would be a “negative enlargement”—in political jargon translated into German, it means a reduction. 11ant schrieb:
Reducing from 114 to 92 square meters (990 to 990 square feet) would be a “negative enlargement”—in political jargon translated into German, it means a reduction. Take a look at the sketches on number 24 from Hanghause and number 36 from Katja in this thread. It is slightly more than 92 square meters (990 square feet).
prm2021 schrieb:
Take a look at the sketches on number 24 by Hanghause and number 36 by Katja in this thread. It’s a little over 92 sqm (990 sq ft) I didn’t count precisely in either case; the 92 sqm (990 sq ft) in my statement comes from a rough estimate based on the building footprint of a one-and-a-half-story house. It might even be possible to get 98 sqm (1,055 sq ft) out of it. But your suggestion of a base model with 114 sqm (1,228 sq ft) definitely cannot be enlarged here.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Hello everyone, and thank you very much for all your answers and ideas. Unfortunately, we faced another setback, and we were actually thinking of giving up for good and building elsewhere... After some back and forth with the building authority / planning office, things are looking better now.
The architects have now created a floor plan based on the surveyor’s data—actually two versions: one with a fireplace and one without. I was quite surprised by how many square meters (square feet) we have.
What do you think?
The architects have now created a floor plan based on the surveyor’s data—actually two versions: one with a fireplace and one without. I was quite surprised by how many square meters (square feet) we have.
What do you think?
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