ᐅ Floor plan design for 4 people, building volume predetermined
Created on: 20 Feb 2023 14:20
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Sumi2188
Hello everyone,
We are a family of four (children aged 4 and 13) and have been trying since 2017 to obtain a building permit for a plot of land owned by my parents, located south of Potsdam.
The main challenge is the location of the property. Since my parents’ house is the last house on the street, the residential area also ends there, and despite having 10 hectares (25 acres) of land, our building options are extremely limited. After a long legal dispute, we have at least secured a preliminary approval for a building permit. However, this comes with the compromise that the new building must be constructed on the current site of an old barn (key point: model effect when building in rural areas) and must adhere to the barn’s existing volume. We need to demolish the barn and then build our new home on that spot, which means we have very strict requirements for the floor plan.
We have had an official site plan prepared. Since our original plan (an L-shaped bungalow) was basically the opposite of the current planning, I would be very grateful for any advice on room layout and orientation, as I have not found a good approach so far. The barn’s footprint can only be shifted along the axis to the extent that the property boundaries do not overlap. According to the building authority, a wall thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is allowed as an increase in volume, but any further enlargement (bay windows, altered roof pitch, etc.) is not permitted. Our equity amounts to around 250,000 €.
We already have a planning meeting scheduled with an architect (March 1, 2023), but it would be great to get some ideas here on what we should consider beforehand. Perhaps someone has similar dimensions and ideas on how to create a nice floor plan.
Zoning/Restrictions
Plot size: Currently not fixed. Between 2,000 and 3,000 m² (22,000 and 32,000 sq ft), but the buildable area is fixed.
Slope: No
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Predefined
Basement, floors: No basement
Number of occupants, ages: 4, two adults and two children (4 and 13 years)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Predefined
Office: Family use or home office? Originally planned to include an office (husband is a teacher), but there is currently an alternative that can still be used. An office would be nice but only if it does not significantly reduce space for other rooms.
Guest bedrooms per year: Not relevant
Open or closed architecture: Open-plan living/kitchen, otherwise closed
Conventional or modern style: Rather conventional
Open kitchen, island: Open-plan living/kitchen, an island would be great.
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes
Music/stereo wall: Not relevant
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Already available
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: Not relevant
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
Thank you very much
Sumi
We are a family of four (children aged 4 and 13) and have been trying since 2017 to obtain a building permit for a plot of land owned by my parents, located south of Potsdam.
The main challenge is the location of the property. Since my parents’ house is the last house on the street, the residential area also ends there, and despite having 10 hectares (25 acres) of land, our building options are extremely limited. After a long legal dispute, we have at least secured a preliminary approval for a building permit. However, this comes with the compromise that the new building must be constructed on the current site of an old barn (key point: model effect when building in rural areas) and must adhere to the barn’s existing volume. We need to demolish the barn and then build our new home on that spot, which means we have very strict requirements for the floor plan.
We have had an official site plan prepared. Since our original plan (an L-shaped bungalow) was basically the opposite of the current planning, I would be very grateful for any advice on room layout and orientation, as I have not found a good approach so far. The barn’s footprint can only be shifted along the axis to the extent that the property boundaries do not overlap. According to the building authority, a wall thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is allowed as an increase in volume, but any further enlargement (bay windows, altered roof pitch, etc.) is not permitted. Our equity amounts to around 250,000 €.
We already have a planning meeting scheduled with an architect (March 1, 2023), but it would be great to get some ideas here on what we should consider beforehand. Perhaps someone has similar dimensions and ideas on how to create a nice floor plan.
Zoning/Restrictions
Plot size: Currently not fixed. Between 2,000 and 3,000 m² (22,000 and 32,000 sq ft), but the buildable area is fixed.
Slope: No
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Predefined
Basement, floors: No basement
Number of occupants, ages: 4, two adults and two children (4 and 13 years)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Predefined
Office: Family use or home office? Originally planned to include an office (husband is a teacher), but there is currently an alternative that can still be used. An office would be nice but only if it does not significantly reduce space for other rooms.
Guest bedrooms per year: Not relevant
Open or closed architecture: Open-plan living/kitchen, otherwise closed
Conventional or modern style: Rather conventional
Open kitchen, island: Open-plan living/kitchen, an island would be great.
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes
Music/stereo wall: Not relevant
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Already available
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: Not relevant
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
Thank you very much
Sumi
K a t j a schrieb:
Nana, that’s the completely wrong attitude. The little cutie will turn out beautifully! You’ll save a lot of money and can invest it in really great fittings. And in the summer, you can set up a nice gazebo outside with a grill... you’ll still have enough left for that. 🙂Oh dear, that really brightens my day – thank you so much for the kind reply 🙂 🙂 🙂
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Bertram10020 Feb 2023 18:49Is it not possible to keep the barn? I think it’s fantastic. I would buy and renovate it immediately. 🙂
At least, I think it would be great if you reused the stones.
Unfortunately, these little treasures are disappearing more and more. Yet, they can usually be renovated well and modernized.
At least, I think it would be great if you reused the stones.
Unfortunately, these little treasures are disappearing more and more. Yet, they can usually be renovated well and modernized.
Bertram100 schrieb:
Is it not possible to keep the barn? I think it’s fantastic. I would buy it and renovate it right away. 🙂
At least I think it would be great if you reused the bricks.
Unfortunately, these gems are disappearing more and more. Usually, they can be renovated well and in a modern way.Unfortunately not, that was our initial idea. But the price per living square meter would increase significantly with renovation. It really was an old stable where horses were kept. The floors and ceilings would all need to be redone, and the roof beams are rotten because of long-term water damage. The bricks are also only stained, so it’s a bit more superficial than authentic 🙂
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hanghaus202320 Feb 2023 19:17Sumi2188 schrieb:
According to the building authority, a insulation thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is approved as an increase in volume. However, no further enlargements (bay window, altered roof pitch, etc.) will be allowed. The equity capital amounts to approximately 250,000 €. You probably meant insulation. So the allowed dimensions are W = 7.64 m (25.1 ft) + 2 * 0.25 m (10 inches) = 8.14 m (26.7 ft); L = 10.05 m (33 ft) + 2 * 0.25 m (10 inches) = 10.55 m (34.6 ft).
Or am I reading something into this that wasn’t intended?
Where is the carport located?
Sumi2188 schrieb:
There are no other restrictions besides staying within the building volume. 🙂I assume the yellow area is your building envelope? Can you freely move within that? Or would it also be possible on the right side of the plan? What about the utility lines? Can you extend them from your parents’ property?
Can you rotate the small house, or is the ridge direction fixed?
What kind of building is that on your land? Looks like it belongs to the neighbor? Does the plot have an angle or kink there? How high is it?
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hanghaus202320 Feb 2023 19:53Here is the orientation on the plot. Should we somehow swap the toilet and the entrance?
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