ᐅ Floor plan design for 4 people, building volume predetermined
Created on: 20 Feb 2023 14:20
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Sumi2188
Hello everyone,
We are a family of four (children aged 4 and 13) and have been trying since 2017 to obtain a building permit for a plot of land owned by my parents, located south of Potsdam.
The main challenge is the location of the property. Since my parents’ house is the last house on the street, the residential area also ends there, and despite having 10 hectares (25 acres) of land, our building options are extremely limited. After a long legal dispute, we have at least secured a preliminary approval for a building permit. However, this comes with the compromise that the new building must be constructed on the current site of an old barn (key point: model effect when building in rural areas) and must adhere to the barn’s existing volume. We need to demolish the barn and then build our new home on that spot, which means we have very strict requirements for the floor plan.
We have had an official site plan prepared. Since our original plan (an L-shaped bungalow) was basically the opposite of the current planning, I would be very grateful for any advice on room layout and orientation, as I have not found a good approach so far. The barn’s footprint can only be shifted along the axis to the extent that the property boundaries do not overlap. According to the building authority, a wall thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is allowed as an increase in volume, but any further enlargement (bay windows, altered roof pitch, etc.) is not permitted. Our equity amounts to around 250,000 €.
We already have a planning meeting scheduled with an architect (March 1, 2023), but it would be great to get some ideas here on what we should consider beforehand. Perhaps someone has similar dimensions and ideas on how to create a nice floor plan.
Zoning/Restrictions
Plot size: Currently not fixed. Between 2,000 and 3,000 m² (22,000 and 32,000 sq ft), but the buildable area is fixed.
Slope: No
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Predefined
Basement, floors: No basement
Number of occupants, ages: 4, two adults and two children (4 and 13 years)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Predefined
Office: Family use or home office? Originally planned to include an office (husband is a teacher), but there is currently an alternative that can still be used. An office would be nice but only if it does not significantly reduce space for other rooms.
Guest bedrooms per year: Not relevant
Open or closed architecture: Open-plan living/kitchen, otherwise closed
Conventional or modern style: Rather conventional
Open kitchen, island: Open-plan living/kitchen, an island would be great.
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes
Music/stereo wall: Not relevant
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Already available
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: Not relevant
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
Thank you very much
Sumi
We are a family of four (children aged 4 and 13) and have been trying since 2017 to obtain a building permit for a plot of land owned by my parents, located south of Potsdam.
The main challenge is the location of the property. Since my parents’ house is the last house on the street, the residential area also ends there, and despite having 10 hectares (25 acres) of land, our building options are extremely limited. After a long legal dispute, we have at least secured a preliminary approval for a building permit. However, this comes with the compromise that the new building must be constructed on the current site of an old barn (key point: model effect when building in rural areas) and must adhere to the barn’s existing volume. We need to demolish the barn and then build our new home on that spot, which means we have very strict requirements for the floor plan.
We have had an official site plan prepared. Since our original plan (an L-shaped bungalow) was basically the opposite of the current planning, I would be very grateful for any advice on room layout and orientation, as I have not found a good approach so far. The barn’s footprint can only be shifted along the axis to the extent that the property boundaries do not overlap. According to the building authority, a wall thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is allowed as an increase in volume, but any further enlargement (bay windows, altered roof pitch, etc.) is not permitted. Our equity amounts to around 250,000 €.
We already have a planning meeting scheduled with an architect (March 1, 2023), but it would be great to get some ideas here on what we should consider beforehand. Perhaps someone has similar dimensions and ideas on how to create a nice floor plan.
Zoning/Restrictions
Plot size: Currently not fixed. Between 2,000 and 3,000 m² (22,000 and 32,000 sq ft), but the buildable area is fixed.
Slope: No
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Predefined
Basement, floors: No basement
Number of occupants, ages: 4, two adults and two children (4 and 13 years)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Predefined
Office: Family use or home office? Originally planned to include an office (husband is a teacher), but there is currently an alternative that can still be used. An office would be nice but only if it does not significantly reduce space for other rooms.
Guest bedrooms per year: Not relevant
Open or closed architecture: Open-plan living/kitchen, otherwise closed
Conventional or modern style: Rather conventional
Open kitchen, island: Open-plan living/kitchen, an island would be great.
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes
Music/stereo wall: Not relevant
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Already available
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: Not relevant
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
Thank you very much
Sumi
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hanghaus202320 Feb 2023 15:23Floor plan based on a mix of Point 110 and Point 116 (just search for them online). Something like this could fit within your dimensions.
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hanghaus202320 Feb 2023 15:30Please post an aerial photo of the property area. The address is, of course, the most helpful information.
Would it be possible to shift the house slightly towards the north?
"The barn in the new construction may only be shifted along the axis to the extent that the property areas do not overlap. According to the building authority, an embankment thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is approved as an increase in the building volume."
Would it be possible to shift the house slightly towards the north?
"The barn in the new construction may only be shifted along the axis to the extent that the property areas do not overlap. According to the building authority, an embankment thickness of 25 cm (10 inches) is approved as an increase in the building volume."
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
Floor plan based on a mix of Point 110 and Point 116 (just search online). Something like this might fit your dimensions. Thank you, this is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for 🙂 🙂
SoL schrieb:
A site plan and the basic conditions, restrictions, and requirements are needed.There are no additional restrictions other than staying within the building volume (which is already quite frustrating). 🙂hanghaus2023 schrieb:
Could you please upload an aerial photo of the property area? The address would of course be the most helpful.
Would it be possible to move the house slightly towards the north?
"The barn in the new build may only be shifted along the axis as far as the property boundaries do not overlap. According to the building authority, an increase in volume is allowed for a wall thickness of 25 cm (10 inches)." I’ll give it a try, though it’s a bit complicated.
Attached is the aerial photo. Everything inside the red frame roughly marks the area intended to be our future property. The barn itself is labeled as number 1 in the photo. Number 2 is the parents’ house. The arrows indicate possible access routes. There is already a carport at the first arrow, which we use. At the right arrow there is a gate, and we could also create an access point there.
In the photos, you can see the barn as it currently looks from the south and west sides.
We are allowed to shift it to the north; currently, the barn stands about 1.40 m (4.6 feet) away from the parents’ house. It is still unclear whether we are permitted to maintain a 1 x 3 m (3.3 x 10 feet) setback or a 2 x 3 m (6.6 x 10 feet) setback, which would be usual, especially for fire protection reasons.
Edit: Roof pitch is about 47 degrees.
Sumi2188 schrieb:
There are no further restrictions other than staying within the building volume (which is already frustrating enough). 🙂Nana, that’s the completely wrong attitude. The little darling will be beautiful! You save a lot of money and can invest it in a top-quality interior. And in summer, you can even set up a nice gazebo outside with a grill... because there will still be enough left for that. 🙂