ᐅ Gas Prices – Where Is Gas Still Affordable?

Deliverer schrieb:


In my opinion, this is the wrong approach.

• It’s no longer easy to get new wood-burning stoves approved.
• Ecologically, it’s also problematic: burning wood produces more CO2 than gas. (No, in Germany, forests have not been regrowing for years.)
• You also bring fine dust and odors into the neighborhood. On winter mornings, it’s barely possible to cycle through the village...
• Then, there are hardly any available stoves. If you find one, it’s at a ridiculous price.
• The same goes for firewood. You really need connections if you want to find dried wood before winter.

You can get a wood stove that meets the standards of the Federal Immission Control Ordinance, Stage 2, approved without any problem. Actually obtaining one is currently not that easy, but possible if you’re not tied to a specific model.
There is enough wood available; for example, in the Harz region, there are still vast amounts of dead wood lying and standing that can be burned. Reforestation is happening in many places, and new trees are growing everywhere.
Burning wood only releases as much CO2 as the tree absorbed while growing.
Here in Brandenburg, there is also plenty available to buy.
Whether you like the smell is subjective. I love it when it smells like wood stoves outside, at least when only dry wood is burned. And fine dust is hardly an issue with modern stoves.

Yes, I admit, I am a big fan of wood stoves. It simply adds to my quality of life. At our place, it runs daily from September/October through March/April.

Steven schrieb:

But we focus on a gas that makes up 0.04% of the air and that humanity (all people) influences by 5%. The global population does not release more than that.

I probably won’t change your opinion, but the figure you provided is incorrect.

The CO2 increase from formerly 280ppm additionally is entirely emitted by humanity. Currently, we are at 410ppm, which means, according to simple calculation, that 32% of the total CO2 in the atmosphere now comes from human sources.
It is known that this additional CO2 originates from the combustion of fossil fuels because biomass – including former biomass – has a specific carbon isotope composition. This is reflected in the CO2 we measure. This also allows us to exclude, for example, volcanic eruptions.

Regarding the 0.04%: that number is correct. However, the conclusion that such a small amount cannot cause significant global warming is wrong. The physics behind it – which I fully understand professionally – is well established and has been known for a long time. The greenhouse effect was qualitatively understood nearly 150 years ago. Quantitative calculations began at the latest in the 1930s.
Global warming is the logical consequence of the physical laws we have. If there were no warming effect from the additional CO2, physics as a whole would be invalid, and we could discard its foundation and start from scratch. But it does exist and is measurable. The fundamental laws of physics work every day.

Since you always ask for arguments…

motorradsilke schrieb:

When wood burns, it only releases as much CO2 as it absorbed during its lifetime.

If it hadn’t been burned, the CO2 it absorbed over decades would not be released into the atmosphere…

motorradsilke schrieb:

Wood releases only as much CO2 when burned as it originally absorbed.

This also applies to coal, oil, and gas. So why is THAT considered an argument FOR using fresh wood when fossil wood is problematic?

Deliverer schrieb:

If it hadn’t been burned, the CO2 it absorbed over decades wouldn’t be released into the air...

Actually, dead wood decomposes and releases the same amount.

motorradsilke schrieb:


Whether you like the smell or not is subjective. I love it when it smells like wood stoves outside, at least when only dry wood is being burned. And fine dust emissions are hardly an issue with modern stoves anymore.

The problem is that there are plenty of old stoves still in use. Even a new stove can become a major source of fine dust if operated incorrectly, knowingly or unknowingly. Aside from that, the certification tests—for most products—are done under ideal lab conditions that the end user rarely achieves.

If you visit countries where wood fireplaces are still widely used in urban areas, you might change your opinion about the "pleasant smell."
If you like the smell, you might as well light an incense stick indoors 😉 at least that won’t affect your neighbors.