A kitchen topic: After just two consultations, I’m already completely fed up with those annoying kitchen salespeople.
I feel totally ripped off. You look at a kitchen, ask for the price—which of course isn’t displayed—and then you faint... €20,000 (about $21,600).
After the initial shock, the salesperson offers the first discounts... after two hours, you’re down to €12,000 (about $13,000) but still feel like you’re being taken for a ride.
If you then want to compare kitchens from the same brand, you can’t, because nobody gives you the itemized lists.
Everyone knows that dealers do this on purpose to be able to offer those huge discounts. I’m done with it.
How do you negotiate your kitchen, or how do you compare prices?
I feel totally ripped off. You look at a kitchen, ask for the price—which of course isn’t displayed—and then you faint... €20,000 (about $21,600).
After the initial shock, the salesperson offers the first discounts... after two hours, you’re down to €12,000 (about $13,000) but still feel like you’re being taken for a ride.
If you then want to compare kitchens from the same brand, you can’t, because nobody gives you the itemized lists.
Everyone knows that dealers do this on purpose to be able to offer those huge discounts. I’m done with it.
How do you negotiate your kitchen, or how do you compare prices?
Simon71 schrieb:
We found a (pretty much perfect) kitchen at Ikea for €11,300 (about $12,200) and were happy with it.
We also had them install it, and I would definitely do that again!€11,300 (about $12,200) for an IKEA kitchen???
Our Nolte kitchen only cost about that much, and it includes all sorts of features that Ikea doesn't even offer.
I find that quite steep for Ikea, even though I know installation alone can cost around €1,000 (about $1,080).
We are currently installing an Ikea kitchen unit in the utility room... the quality is noticeably lower...
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Doc.Schnaggls3 Feb 2014 12:09ypg schrieb:
$11,300 for an Ikea kitchen???
Our Nolte kitchen cost about that much, including all sorts of extras (!!!) that you just don’t get at Ikea.
I think that’s quite steep for Ikea, even though I know installation alone can cost around $1,000.
...I believe the size of the kitchen plays a major role here, as well as the number and type of built-in appliances...
That said, I don’t really find a budget between $10,000 and $20,000 unusual for a modern, large kitchen...
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Doc.Schnaggls3 Feb 2014 14:14Yes, you are right about that.
In the end, we went with a carpentry company that is custom-building our kitchen. And surprisingly, they are even more affordable than any kitchen showroom we had contacted.
We didn’t really consider IKEA due to experiences within our circle of acquaintances, not to mention that our (self-assembled) IKEA kitchen wouldn’t have been much cheaper, so we didn’t want to compromise that much...
In the end, we went with a carpentry company that is custom-building our kitchen. And surprisingly, they are even more affordable than any kitchen showroom we had contacted.
We didn’t really consider IKEA due to experiences within our circle of acquaintances, not to mention that our (self-assembled) IKEA kitchen wouldn’t have been much cheaper, so we didn’t want to compromise that much...
Doc.Schnaggls schrieb:
We did not really consider Ikea due to experiences within our circle of acquaintances, apart from the fact that our (self-assembled) Ikea kitchen would not have been significantly cheaper than what we were willing to accept in terms of compromises...Yes, that's what I mean!
I planned our kitchen with IKEA and ended up with almost the same total cost (including delivery and installation) — with IKEA appliances. However, this did not include a glass niche panel, which would have been an additional expense.
For my Schüller kitchen, I now have a 6-raster system (one more drawer per cabinet compared to IKEA) and larger pull-outs. In my 1m (39 inch) pull-out in the island, I can fit a crate of beer, a crate of water (the glass bottle type), a crate of juice (also glass), and various small bottles! The kitchen consultant told me that the pull-outs can support up to 80 kg (176 lbs)! Now that's enthusiasm!
I’m also an IKEA fan, and I’m going there again today, but I wouldn’t want to have an IKEA kitchen again.
That’s why I would recommend comparing — always the same kitchen design and layout. Maybe even compare manufacturers. You’ll be surprised how much prices can vary.
For my Schüller kitchen, I now have a 6-raster system (one more drawer per cabinet compared to IKEA) and larger pull-outs. In my 1m (39 inch) pull-out in the island, I can fit a crate of beer, a crate of water (the glass bottle type), a crate of juice (also glass), and various small bottles! The kitchen consultant told me that the pull-outs can support up to 80 kg (176 lbs)! Now that's enthusiasm!
I’m also an IKEA fan, and I’m going there again today, but I wouldn’t want to have an IKEA kitchen again.
That’s why I would recommend comparing — always the same kitchen design and layout. Maybe even compare manufacturers. You’ll be surprised how much prices can vary.
@Bauexperte: It all started properly with the abolition of the WSV and SSV, in my opinion.
That allowed everyone to discount almost everything for the rest of the year. And it just kept escalating. Then it was no longer called an end-of-season sale but the “sale” concept came over from France. As long as the prices are paid, both sides seem happy. I’ve heard some things (from dealers’ side) that made my hair stand on end.
By the way, we bought our kitchen yesterday. The list price was almost 40,000€ (about 43,000 USD). The first offer was 17,800€ (19,200 USD) because there are currently great discounts. Then I spoke with the manager, and we agreed on 13,600€ (14,700 USD); he was already taking a big risk. In the end, the price was 10,000€ (10,800 USD) plus a 600€ (650 USD) merchandise voucher, including installation. And they won’t be going broke anytime soon either.
That allowed everyone to discount almost everything for the rest of the year. And it just kept escalating. Then it was no longer called an end-of-season sale but the “sale” concept came over from France. As long as the prices are paid, both sides seem happy. I’ve heard some things (from dealers’ side) that made my hair stand on end.
By the way, we bought our kitchen yesterday. The list price was almost 40,000€ (about 43,000 USD). The first offer was 17,800€ (19,200 USD) because there are currently great discounts. Then I spoke with the manager, and we agreed on 13,600€ (14,700 USD); he was already taking a big risk. In the end, the price was 10,000€ (10,800 USD) plus a 600€ (650 USD) merchandise voucher, including installation. And they won’t be going broke anytime soon either.
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