Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
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Pitiglianio30 Mar 2022 13:14How many square meters is that? 250?
With this building volume? Who would build that for under 500,000?? I’d sign immediately... 😉
I wouldn’t like the proportions. Over 60 sqm (645 sq ft) of hallways, nearly 60 sqm (645 sq ft) of utility spaces,
and then not even 50 sqm (540 sq ft) of living area? Guest room, hobby room, gym, office, dressing room... I would combine several of those.
With this building volume? Who would build that for under 500,000?? I’d sign immediately... 😉
I wouldn’t like the proportions. Over 60 sqm (645 sq ft) of hallways, nearly 60 sqm (645 sq ft) of utility spaces,
and then not even 50 sqm (540 sq ft) of living area? Guest room, hobby room, gym, office, dressing room... I would combine several of those.
Hausbautraum20 schrieb:
This is the first floor plan in this forum that I personally don’t like at all.
Huge living area, but not even a second shower option for possibly two children.
The children’s rooms seem too small compared to the living space. The guest room, on the other hand, is large. Our open-plan area and bathroom are not bigger either, but they fit better with the total living area.
I also think the slope of the budget probably hasn’t been sufficiently taken into account. I feel the same way – somehow I think that with over 200m² (2150 sq ft) of living space (excluding storage rooms/garage/hobby room), not much has actually been made out of it.
Extremely large hallway areas, strange layouts (I also find the guest WC quite odd), and a living area that’s too small in relation to the total living space. I also don’t think the kitchen is very well designed.
The children’s rooms and bathroom are very small (always compared to the overall size of the house).
I actually find the floor plan unsuccessful – but of course, it’s a matter of personal taste!
kati1337 schrieb:
My husband really likes the spacious hallways. They remind him of his brother’s house in New Zealand, which was also very open and not as compactly built as is common here. If your husband, unlike Mrs. Jahnke’s, lives indoors year-round, considering his housing preferences is probably not excessive 🙂
kati1337 schrieb:
We have another construction company we like. We might ask them to create a new design from scratch, based entirely on our requirements, and maybe limit it to around 190 square meters (2,045 square feet). Let’s see what their architects come up with. To avoid comparing apples and oranges, I wouldn’t give them stricter parameters than the other builder. A budget framework should, however, always be included.
I believe this will be a beautiful house (looking forward to the renderings).
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WilderSueden30 Mar 2022 13:29I also tend to agree with the more critical comments. Very large and wasteful with space. Fitness room without windows? The second workstation in the office barely gets any light either. Separate hobby room without windows. Compared to that, the sequence of doors in the garage basement is just a minor issue, but I would eliminate the small hallway and use the utility room as a passageway.
In the kitchen, I would extend the countertop all the way to the column and extend the column across the entire depth of the countertop. That way, it won’t appear as a freestanding post but as a proper end element.
I would also take a very critical look at the construction costs, especially since you already started that thread. You come up with about 2000€/m² (around $185 per sq ft) including the basement and basement garage. Even if you partly exclude the garage... that’s very economical.
And to pick up on the topic of storage from the other thread...you have 30m² (around 320 sq ft) of storage rooms in the garage now, but you can only access the bicycles if a car is moved or you go out through the front door with the bike.
In the kitchen, I would extend the countertop all the way to the column and extend the column across the entire depth of the countertop. That way, it won’t appear as a freestanding post but as a proper end element.
I would also take a very critical look at the construction costs, especially since you already started that thread. You come up with about 2000€/m² (around $185 per sq ft) including the basement and basement garage. Even if you partly exclude the garage... that’s very economical.
And to pick up on the topic of storage from the other thread...you have 30m² (around 320 sq ft) of storage rooms in the garage now, but you can only access the bicycles if a car is moved or you go out through the front door with the bike.
Don’t underestimate the additional building costs. You’re dealing with a sloped site.
Our wall construction on the slope consists of gravel, insulation, waterproof concrete, battens to create an installation space, and plasterboard panels. The extra cost compared to a standard wall is around 15,000 to 20,000.
The structural engineer requested a thicker floor slab, a thicker base slab, and much more reinforcement, adding another 25,000.
Prices from 2017/2018 for an 11 m (36 ft) long house with ground bearing class 5/6.
For you, there will also be slope stabilization and excavation disposal costs (a friend paid 20,000 in 2018), plus possible additional expenses due to setbacks and recesses.
The outdoor area with retaining walls and earthworks is not comparable in cost to flat sites.
Whether you want to hear it or not, make sure to leave plenty of room in your budget.
Our wall construction on the slope consists of gravel, insulation, waterproof concrete, battens to create an installation space, and plasterboard panels. The extra cost compared to a standard wall is around 15,000 to 20,000.
The structural engineer requested a thicker floor slab, a thicker base slab, and much more reinforcement, adding another 25,000.
Prices from 2017/2018 for an 11 m (36 ft) long house with ground bearing class 5/6.
For you, there will also be slope stabilization and excavation disposal costs (a friend paid 20,000 in 2018), plus possible additional expenses due to setbacks and recesses.
The outdoor area with retaining walls and earthworks is not comparable in cost to flat sites.
Whether you want to hear it or not, make sure to leave plenty of room in your budget.
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