Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
First of all, my condolences.
Aside from that, I would still recommend getting help with the biggest investment of your life. Even if that means some uncomfortable truths come to light.
Of course, you have to be willing and able to accept that.
The alternative is approaching it naively and trusting too easily, then learning the hard way.
Your money – your choice
Aside from that, I would still recommend getting help with the biggest investment of your life. Even if that means some uncomfortable truths come to light.
Of course, you have to be willing and able to accept that.
The alternative is approaching it naively and trusting too easily, then learning the hard way.
Your money – your choice
mayglow schrieb:
especially when someone initially does not want to accept a suggestion, no matter the reason.The problem is often that some people do not receive any feedback on important questions or comments. This is, of course, frustrating. As the original poster, it can be difficult to address everything or to distinguish what is important from what is not. However, if a statement appears three or four times, it’s worth briefly responding to it. It is completely fine to simply say, "I like this, so I want to go with it." Saying nothing at all harms the thread and leads to frustration on all sides.K a t j a schrieb:
Saying absolutely nothing harms the thread and leads to frustration for everyone involved.This applies especially since all the floor plan and space experts here have asked for information. Everyone is willing to help, but their hands are tied because the important measurements of the plot have not been provided. The... Sorry, here the original poster @kati1337 is standing in their own way by not distinguishing between what is important and what is not.P
Pinkiponk3 Apr 2022 10:44kati1337 schrieb:
... I also want to express my sympathy and wish you and your family strength.
Although I am an atheist myself, when there is a death, I always (for my own comfort) assume that the person who is lost to me in this world is now in the world of their important Creator and that they are doing well there. Even though I am an atheist, this brings me comfort and I am able to believe it because, in my opinion, we largely create our own reality anyway.
I am thinking of you.
Thank you for your kind words about me. I really enjoy reading everything you write and I am sure that you and your husband will do just fine. I am happy for you about your new life close to your family. That will be wonderful, and the time until then will be stimulating and interesting 🙂 (also for us here in the forum, I hope. ;-) )
(By the way, I absolutely love the large hallways; I totally agree with your husband— we would have loved that too. I believe that when building a house, you can choose one passion (mine was symmetry) and subordinate other things to it. I’m convinced — and this has always been true in my life — that having one passion makes all other things that might be open to criticism fade into the background. 🙂
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Pinkiponk3 Apr 2022 11:09evelinoz schrieb:
Well, like others, I was surprised that someone shares their life so openly, day after day, week after week, month after month in a forum.I have been reading here almost daily for quite some time but hadn’t noticed or realized this. From my perspective, the communication style is completely normal for a forum and not remarkable in any particular way. Of course, there can be two or more opinions on that. ;-)Hausbautraum20 schrieb:
After I commented that I don’t like the floor plan, I’m sorry.In my opinion, it’s not so much about whether the floor plan appeals to you or “fits your needs.” ;-)Hausbautraum20 schrieb:
In the end, everyone just wanted to help and warn about a floor plan that will become very expensive and has a lot of useless space.In my view, if the floor plan “gets too expensive,” Kati and her husband will notice and look for ways to save costs. And, I hope, they might even ask for advice here in the forum. ;-)The “useless” space is a hot topic that I have to face repeatedly here in the forum and especially with my husband. My opinion is very clear: I love big hallways. Even if some forum members consider them useless. Much of what we do, buy, say, think, or make is useless ... but it’s usually still nice.
Hausbautraum20 schrieb:
By the way, I really admire how proactive you are. Selling the old house, buying new land, arranging a moving company, finding a temporary solution, and already getting new offers from a builder—all with a small child!That’s truly an impressive achievement that I wouldn’t expect everyone to manage.SoL schrieb:
Besides, I would still recommend getting help with the biggest investment of your life.I assume that will be the case at the right moment, if necessary. Although the lottery win is still pending. ;-) (Or maybe online poker? We play that. 🙂 )Pinkiponk schrieb:
Although I am an atheist myself, whenever someone dies I always find comfort in the thought that the person I have lost in this life is now in the world of their creator, who is important to them, and that they are doing very well there. Even though I am an atheist, this brings me comfort and I can believe it, because in my opinion people largely create their own reality anyway. Wow, now we actually have something in common. By the way, you expressed that really well...