ᐅ Single-family home floor plan of approximately 140 m² for discussion
Created on: 23 Apr 2018 21:41
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Phobos83Good evening,
after reading along for a while, I’d finally like to start a thread myself and share our current floor plan for discussion, beginning with the details:
Development Plan/Restrictions:
Plot size: 961 m² (0.24 acres)
Slope: yes, about 3 m (10 feet) over the approximately 40 m (131 feet) slope to the south
Building envelope, building line, boundaries, orientation: see drawing
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: gable roof
Client Requirements:
Style, roof shape, building type: classic detached single-family house with a gable roof
Basement, floors: basement, 1.5 floors
Number of people, ages: two adults (each 34 years old), two children (0.7 and 3 years)
Space needs on ground floor: kitchen/dining, living room, guest toilet, office
Upper floor: bedroom, 2 children's rooms + bathroom
Office: mainly for family use
Overnight guests per year: negligible
Open or closed layout: open living area, closed hallway
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen without island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage, see plans
Utility garden, greenhouse: to be added later for sure
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, gerne auch Begründungen, warum dieses oder das nicht sein soll:
It is important to us to have a pantry accessible from the kitchen as well as a small utility room in or adjacent to the bathroom, to do laundry where it is generated.
Further wishes: access through the garage and a ground-level entrance to the basement,
plus a fireplace, and a functional office on the ground floor
House Design:
Who designed the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Kitchen/pantry, garage access, “fair” room distribution upstairs, basement access
What do you not like? Why?
- ratio of office to living area, staircase, bathroom layout
Price estimate according to architect/planner: about $350,000 including basement and garage, mid-level finishing standard
Personal price limit for house including fittings: close to being reached
Preferred heating system: gas + solar + fireplace (water-based)
If you have to give up something, which features or expansions?
The office could, if necessary, (as currently depicted in the draft) also be located in the basement.
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
Based on a rough sketch and our wishes.
What do you think makes it especially good or bad?
It definitely tries to accommodate all wishes, but we feel the overall concept is still not quite right.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
The living room feels too small to us; we’d prefer to take some space from the office. Main problem: the staircase and access get in the way.
Regarding the history:
We received our first draft about two months ago, which was a promising start. However, after two revisions, we feel somewhat stuck. Increasing the floor plan size from 8.5 x 10.5 m (28 x 34.4 feet) to 9 x 11 m (29.5 x 36 feet) to allow more flexibility has not really worked on the ground floor. The office is now bigger, but we still don’t fully like the living room area. We would have preferred to gain more space so that the living room extends deeper around the corner near the fireplace—especially since the sliding door towards the kitchen was removed. Should we reposition the staircase differently and keep it more open, or route access through the living room? The large office has the advantage of being usable as an additional (children’s) room if necessary. But since the design is basically final, less space could also suffice here.
Upstairs, the rooms are certainly spacious enough now. However, the bathroom raises the question of whether the access with another door is well thought out. In the very first draft, the small utility room was completely separate; in the second, it was removed due to space constraints. In any case, we prefer a “T-layout” of toilet/shower/sink, so this area will still need some adjustment.
Unfortunately, I can only show the latest exterior design. For the basement, I would prefer to relocate the entrance (sheltered) under the terrace.
That’s the current situation. I have uploaded the two drafts for ground and upper floors for comparison.
We are open to advice, suggestions, and of course criticism. At the moment, we wonder if we are simply trying to fit too much into a house of this size and are missing the forest for the trees. Therefore, an objective external perspective would be greatly appreciated.
after reading along for a while, I’d finally like to start a thread myself and share our current floor plan for discussion, beginning with the details:
Development Plan/Restrictions:
Plot size: 961 m² (0.24 acres)
Slope: yes, about 3 m (10 feet) over the approximately 40 m (131 feet) slope to the south
Building envelope, building line, boundaries, orientation: see drawing
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: gable roof
Client Requirements:
Style, roof shape, building type: classic detached single-family house with a gable roof
Basement, floors: basement, 1.5 floors
Number of people, ages: two adults (each 34 years old), two children (0.7 and 3 years)
Space needs on ground floor: kitchen/dining, living room, guest toilet, office
Upper floor: bedroom, 2 children's rooms + bathroom
Office: mainly for family use
Overnight guests per year: negligible
Open or closed layout: open living area, closed hallway
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen without island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage, see plans
Utility garden, greenhouse: to be added later for sure
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, gerne auch Begründungen, warum dieses oder das nicht sein soll:
It is important to us to have a pantry accessible from the kitchen as well as a small utility room in or adjacent to the bathroom, to do laundry where it is generated.
Further wishes: access through the garage and a ground-level entrance to the basement,
plus a fireplace, and a functional office on the ground floor
House Design:
Who designed the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Kitchen/pantry, garage access, “fair” room distribution upstairs, basement access
What do you not like? Why?
- ratio of office to living area, staircase, bathroom layout
Price estimate according to architect/planner: about $350,000 including basement and garage, mid-level finishing standard
Personal price limit for house including fittings: close to being reached
Preferred heating system: gas + solar + fireplace (water-based)
If you have to give up something, which features or expansions?
The office could, if necessary, (as currently depicted in the draft) also be located in the basement.
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
Based on a rough sketch and our wishes.
What do you think makes it especially good or bad?
It definitely tries to accommodate all wishes, but we feel the overall concept is still not quite right.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
The living room feels too small to us; we’d prefer to take some space from the office. Main problem: the staircase and access get in the way.
Regarding the history:
We received our first draft about two months ago, which was a promising start. However, after two revisions, we feel somewhat stuck. Increasing the floor plan size from 8.5 x 10.5 m (28 x 34.4 feet) to 9 x 11 m (29.5 x 36 feet) to allow more flexibility has not really worked on the ground floor. The office is now bigger, but we still don’t fully like the living room area. We would have preferred to gain more space so that the living room extends deeper around the corner near the fireplace—especially since the sliding door towards the kitchen was removed. Should we reposition the staircase differently and keep it more open, or route access through the living room? The large office has the advantage of being usable as an additional (children’s) room if necessary. But since the design is basically final, less space could also suffice here.
Upstairs, the rooms are certainly spacious enough now. However, the bathroom raises the question of whether the access with another door is well thought out. In the very first draft, the small utility room was completely separate; in the second, it was removed due to space constraints. In any case, we prefer a “T-layout” of toilet/shower/sink, so this area will still need some adjustment.
Unfortunately, I can only show the latest exterior design. For the basement, I would prefer to relocate the entrance (sheltered) under the terrace.
That’s the current situation. I have uploaded the two drafts for ground and upper floors for comparison.
We are open to advice, suggestions, and of course criticism. At the moment, we wonder if we are simply trying to fit too much into a house of this size and are missing the forest for the trees. Therefore, an objective external perspective would be greatly appreciated.
Phobos83 schrieb:
however, we feel that the whole thing is still not quite right. I feel the same way – unlike me, hopefully you can identify exactly where it still "doesn't quite work."
The design maturity is fairly good; with some luck, we might be able to finalize things by page 8 of this thread.
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Very strange. The house is being enlarged by half a meter because space is very tight everywhere, and then they install a space-consuming landing staircase. What nonsense! This makes the living room even narrower and forces the access to the office to the bottom of the plan, which actually makes the office larger.
Building such massive walls around the staircase is also awful.
The children’s bedrooms are huge, which isn’t necessarily bad, but pointless if there is no space for laundry. What is used as the laundry room is impossible to use and a disaster in every way.
I think a lot could be gained by replacing the landing staircase with a space-saving half-turn stair. Upstairs, the children’s rooms would be a bit smaller, but a proper utility room would be a real improvement. One should not forget that the utility room benefits everyone, including the children.
Building such massive walls around the staircase is also awful.
The children’s bedrooms are huge, which isn’t necessarily bad, but pointless if there is no space for laundry. What is used as the laundry room is impossible to use and a disaster in every way.
I think a lot could be gained by replacing the landing staircase with a space-saving half-turn stair. Upstairs, the children’s rooms would be a bit smaller, but a proper utility room would be a real improvement. One should not forget that the utility room benefits everyone, including the children.
Katja, there is a basement for laundry.
Personally, I don’t find the living-dining room livable at all. Well, the living room is fine, but the dining area is extremely small, and with the fireplace, there is no direct access to the living room. If only one child is sitting there (in my opinion, the chairs against the wall wouldn’t need to be reachable), a) they could burn themselves, and b) they block the way to the sofa. The kitchen, on the other hand, takes up too much space that isn’t needed for the working area. Too much space in the middle, but then a pantry, even though there is a basement. For a house of this size, 37 sqm (400 sq ft) for everything is already a bit “small.” I thought the old ground floor was better.
Basically, I would give up the office on the ground floor and move it to the basement to create more space on the ground floor.
A basement used solely for storage would be a complete waste if you need living space. This also makes sense with a house on a slope.
Then you could even do without adding half a meter (about 1.5 feet) to the house width.
Also, think about how you want your kitchen to be. The plan shows a stove on a freestanding 60 cm (24 inch) cabinet, which is a) not attractive and b) impractical. With better planning later, you won’t have enough space for a proper kitchen again...
Personally, I don’t find the living-dining room livable at all. Well, the living room is fine, but the dining area is extremely small, and with the fireplace, there is no direct access to the living room. If only one child is sitting there (in my opinion, the chairs against the wall wouldn’t need to be reachable), a) they could burn themselves, and b) they block the way to the sofa. The kitchen, on the other hand, takes up too much space that isn’t needed for the working area. Too much space in the middle, but then a pantry, even though there is a basement. For a house of this size, 37 sqm (400 sq ft) for everything is already a bit “small.” I thought the old ground floor was better.
Basically, I would give up the office on the ground floor and move it to the basement to create more space on the ground floor.
A basement used solely for storage would be a complete waste if you need living space. This also makes sense with a house on a slope.
Then you could even do without adding half a meter (about 1.5 feet) to the house width.
Also, think about how you want your kitchen to be. The plan shows a stove on a freestanding 60 cm (24 inch) cabinet, which is a) not attractive and b) impractical. With better planning later, you won’t have enough space for a proper kitchen again...
ypg schrieb:
Katja, there is a basement for the laundry. Yes, that’s true, but the original poster explicitly wants the laundry upstairs. Maybe they should consider installing a laundry chute to the basement instead of the impractical solution shown on the plans.
Personally, I would again skip the entrance from the garage. It’s a typical case of too little space for it, which would be better used to widen the kitchen and add a pantry.
The shower on the ground floor also seems questionable to me. How big is it, and how would a larger guest manage to get to the toilet?
Having the office in the basement is certainly an option. However, living on three levels would be too inconvenient for me personally. I had that in a terraced house—I wouldn’t want to repeat it.
kaho674 schrieb:
Yes, but the original poster explicitly wants the laundry upstairs. Maybe they should consider installing a laundry chute down to the basement instead of the nonsense shown in the plans.
...It’s unbelievable that this is the thread. I read about the “laundry behind the bathroom” last night and already frowned, but I couldn’t open the PDFs.
Let me ask directly: what is the basement actually intended for if neither the pantry nor the utility room are planned there?
Is it just meant as a catchment space for the slope? Or as storage space because everyone has one?
If I were you, I would pause and consider whether you really need all three levels and instead build a larger house on just two levels: use the lower level as a spacious open-plan area, office, freezer room, and pantry; and use the upper floor for bedrooms, utility room, and storage room. From one side it would look like a bungalow, but with two stories at the back.
I would be interested in the site plan.
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