ᐅ Floor Plan with a Recessed Section – Yes or No?

Hello everyone!

My husband and I are in the early stages of planning our house. We had to submit a preliminary house plan to our local municipality (Salzburg Land/Austria) on short notice due to certain requirements. We developed this plan together with our designer with very little preparation time.

We have a somewhat unusual floor plan, in our opinion, featuring a setback on the ground floor, and we mainly want to hear your opinions about this. Our primary concern is whether we have taken a completely absurd approach or if we can build on this basic idea. Our biggest issue is that so far we haven’t seen a single house with this type of floor plan (neither online nor in real life, at least around Salzburg and nearby ...) and naturally, we wonder why. Does it have any significant disadvantages? Does it look strange in any way?

We look forward to your feedback and are already very grateful for your constructive criticism and especially your time to help us.


Now to the questionnaire:

Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size 920 m² (9,900 sq ft)
Slope Elevated plot, gently sloping on three sides

Owners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type rural-modern, gable roof, two-family house
Basement, floors Basement, 2 full floors, attic
Number of occupants, ages Currently three (28, 29, and 8 months old) with 1-2 more children planned
Space requirements on ground and upper floors
Ground floor: spacious open kitchen with integrated pantry, dining area, living room, WC, bathroom, office (later a bedroom)
Upper floor: 3 children’s bedrooms, family bathroom, WC
Attic: master bedroom with bathroom and an additional room (extra bedroom / hobby room)

Ground floor + upper floor approx. 200 m² (2,150 sq ft); attic size not yet finalized

Office For family use and later bedroom
Kitchen L-shaped with cooking island and wood stove
Number of dining seats 6-8, possibly extendable table for more space
Fireplace Yes – planned as a room divider between living room and "common room"
Balcony Balcony on the first floor – should eventually be large enough for the second family
Garage Small garage for 1 vehicle and a larger garage for 2 vehicles

House design
Planned by:
Designer from a construction company

What do you particularly like? Why?

• “Split-level” living room – in our opinion, this creates a visual separation between the kitchen/dining area and is our little “highlight.” The living room remains a distinct living space and doesn’t get cluttered with toys because the common room offers plenty of space.
• “Common room” – this refers to the area between the living room and kitchen in front of the terrace door – lots of space for children to play and creates an open atmosphere while keeping the living room somewhat separated. Where a sofa is drawn, a fireplace with a reading corner as a room divider is also planned.
• Setback at the terrace – seating area covered and wind-protected with privacy screening. The resulting floor plan (where the living room is not directly adjacent to the kitchen and dining area as in many open-concept designs) is something we like.

What don’t you like? Why?

• The office is intended to become our bedroom later, but in our opinion, it is currently too small for that.
• Main entrance is in the basement – spatially, the floor plan doesn’t allow for another solution; otherwise, the entrance would be on the back of the house, which we do not like. However, there is certainly another entrance on the ground floor for easier access when bringing in groceries, so you don’t have to carry everything through the basement.
• The cloakroom in the basement is still too small but can be easily enlarged – just mentioning this in case someone notices.

Cost estimate according to architect/designer not yet available – only a preliminary draft
Personal budget for house including fixtures and fittings 350,000 € (with a lot of personal labor)
Preferred heating technology Heat pump

If you had to give up something, which features/finishes
- Could give up: attic expansion initially, but want to keep the possibility for future use
- Cannot give up: a cozy and large kitchen/dining area is very important to us

Why does the design look the way it does?

The most important aspect of our planning is that the house can be converted into a two-family home in the future when one of our children would need it, earliest in 20–25 years. That would mean one living unit on the ground floor and a second on the first floor plus the attic.

The office planned on the ground floor would then be used as a bedroom. The staircase can be completely separated with a (already marked) wall but is intended to remain open until then.

The attic is planned to house the master bedroom with bathroom. This is where the plan shows the biggest weaknesses for us: the bedroom is too large, and the bathroom is too small. This definitely needs to be changed.

Why sleep in the attic? There is not enough space on the ground floor, and we want to keep privacy from the children’s bedrooms so that when our kids are older and have friends/partners visiting, everyone can have their own space. We know this might be inconvenient with small children/babies due to additional distances, but since children’s bedrooms 1 and 2 are relatively large, siblings could share a room, and bedroom 3 could serve as a “backup bedroom” for us. We are only planning for two children but you never know!
If later children’s bedrooms 1 and 2 become kitchen/living areas, there would then be one bedroom on the first floor and two more in the attic.

What we particularly like is the idea of the split-level living room. We are aware that opinions on this are very divided and most experts discourage it. However, the level difference is only 36 cm (2 steps), and we believe it will be manageable even as we get older.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?

We would really like to know from you:

• Is there a name for this floor plan style (like L-shaped or U-shaped)?
• What do you think in general about the idea of the setback? We like the idea of having a covered terrace area and the resulting floor plan. We haven’t seen houses or floor plans like this before (if at all, only with bungalows) and wonder why? Does nobody like it, or are there disadvantages we are overlooking? Do you have experiences with sunlight exposure – will it be a problem that the setback measures 3.5 m (11.5 ft) from the balcony edge to the terrace door?
• Even though we love the idea, we would appreciate experiences and opinions on the split-level living room.
• Would you build the wall separating the common room from the living room (shown as 1.20 m (4 ft) high in the plan) all the way to the ceiling?
• Suggestions and ideas for the office/bedroom on the ground floor – how could the layout be changed to make the room at least 5 m² (54 sq ft) larger?

The house and the budget do not match. Not even if the entire interior fit-out is done as DIY work.

What do you plan to do yourself?

Several things about the floor plan don’t work.

The recess is expensive, and the interior area will be darker.

Hello,
So you’re planning the all-in-one solution and ready to live your whole life with temporary fixes?!

goldmarieeeee schrieb:

The office planned on the ground floor is intended to be used as a bedroom.

That is far too small to serve as a bedroom for two people in old age.

goldmarieeeee schrieb:

The level difference is only 36 cm (14 inches) — just two steps — and in our opinion, still manageable in old age.

Even 36 cm (14 inches) is difficult to overcome, especially on crutches after a fall at age 25...

At least your username promises enough money for this project.
It seems to me you are already planning a multi-family house.
What stood out to me:
On the one hand, a patio door and the space in front of it are not suitable for play areas; on the other hand, I don’t see a generous space for a dining table in your plan.

Why have an additional bathroom with a toilet on the ground floor?
And then three more on the upper floor (including attic)... you have five bathrooms in total... wow!

I definitely don’t see 350,000!
Five bathrooms, three balconies, basement... 600,000?

haydee schrieb:

The house and the budget don’t match. Not even if the entire interior work is done by ourselves.

What exactly do you plan to do by yourselves?

There are several issues with the floor plan.

The setback is expensive, and the interior area will be darker.

In this very first draft, all our wishes, ideas, and dreams have been incorporated, and of course, some changes will still be made here and there. We can also imagine postponing the attic conversion for now, but as mentioned, the option should definitely remain available.

This is our desired floor plan, and we are currently working on optimizing it. Only once we know exactly what we want can we start addressing the financial implementation. Could you, Vorlauf, share your main concerns about the floor plan with us? That would really be a great help!

ypg schrieb:

Hello,
So you’re planning the all-in-one solution and are prepared to live with temporary fixes your whole life?!
That’s way too small to serve as a bedroom for two in old age.

36 cm (14 inches) is actually difficult to manage on crutches in your mid-20s after a fall...

At least your username suggests you have enough money for this project.
It seems to me you’re already planning a multi-family house.
What caught my attention:
On the one hand, a patio door and the room in front of it are not suitable for play areas, and on the other hand, I don’t see enough generous space for a dining table.

Why an extra bathroom with a toilet on the ground floor?
And then three more on the upper floor (including attic)... you have 5 wet rooms... wow!

I definitely don’t see 350,000!
5 wet rooms, three balconies, basement... 600,000?

Thank you very much for your feedback!

- clearly, the bedroom is too small – that’s why I asked for your suggestions on how to solve this.

- we are fully aware of the split-level issue. I’m especially interested in hearing from those who have experience with this type of construction and whether they regret this choice.

- yes, that’s true: when a house is planned as a two-family home, it’s just huge :-( we want to plan ahead so our children might have the chance to live affordably someday. We currently live on the first floor in my parents-in-law’s house and are very, very grateful for that.

- your comments about the play area and dining table make sense – we will give this more thought.

- the bathroom on the ground floor is planned because this will likely be our “only” bathroom in old age if the upper floors and attic are occupied by someone else.

- there is one bathroom on each floor – so “only” 3 in total.

- the plan shows a balcony in the attic – but we don’t want that one anyway, I forgot to mention it.

- thanks for your cost estimate. We haven’t thought about financing yet, as we’re still at the basic planning stage of our house.

goldmarieeeee schrieb:

- thanks for your cost estimate. We haven’t dealt with the financing yet, since we are still stuck on the basic idea for our house.

That won’t work.

You already have a complete design, which is more than just a basic idea. Now is the absolute latest moment to get serious about your budget.

You can’t just wish for things, base a design on that, find out it costs 600,000€ instead of 350,000€, and then start cutting items. You can’t simply remove parts or reduce the size of a floor plan — that breaks the whole concept.

Not many people here will invest much effort in planning that has no chance of being realized.

So try this:

Overall budget

- fixtures, furniture, moving costs, etc.
- landscaping, garage, etc.
- additional building costs, architect fees, extra expenses for earthworks/slope, etc.
- extra purchase costs (e.g., taxes, fees)
- @all please add anything I missed

= Budget available for the house

I’m not familiar with construction costs in the Salzburg region. The forum often assumes about 2,000€/m² (185$/ft²) for good standard.

It’s hard to estimate how much self-work (DIY) will save you; you still need materials and usually people overestimate what they can do themselves.

So deduct 50,000–100,000€ for the basement from your house budget.

What’s left divide by about 1,800€/m² (167$/ft²).

That gives you a rough guideline for the size your house can have. Depending on what is included in the budget, expect something closer to 130–140 m² (1400–1500 ft²) without an additional attic floor rather than 200 m² (2150 ft²) plus attic.

No offense intended, but this way you’ll get stuck in a plan that will never be built and even worse, trying to force it into your budget later.

Edit: the fixtures category naturally also includes things like kitchen, lighting, etc.