Hello everyone,
Starting tomorrow, our interior walls will be finished with Q2 plaster.
We will carry out the painting work ourselves a few weeks later.
Now we are wondering what would be the best option for this.
We have currently considered several options but are still unsure which one we prefer (cost/effort).
1. Simply paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
2. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
3. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with standard emulsion paint
4. Use textured wallpaper (Raufaser) and then paint over it
We generally don’t like ceilings and walls to be completely smooth – a fine texture is perfectly fine.
What have you done in similar situations? If it wasn’t a DIY job: What did your painter do?
Any tips/tricks/notes on this?
Starting tomorrow, our interior walls will be finished with Q2 plaster.
We will carry out the painting work ourselves a few weeks later.
Now we are wondering what would be the best option for this.
We have currently considered several options but are still unsure which one we prefer (cost/effort).
1. Simply paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
2. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
3. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with standard emulsion paint
4. Use textured wallpaper (Raufaser) and then paint over it
We generally don’t like ceilings and walls to be completely smooth – a fine texture is perfectly fine.
What have you done in similar situations? If it wasn’t a DIY job: What did your painter do?
Any tips/tricks/notes on this?
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Pitigliano13 Jan 2022 17:42However, it should be kept in mind that if you paint directly onto the Q2 plaster without using a painter’s fleece, removing the paint later will be a difficult and messy task. Eventually, you cannot keep painting over layer after layer of paint. If wallpaper is applied under the paint, it will be easier to renovate later on.
Prager91 schrieb:
So, I understand that you absolutely would use a painting fleece or woodchip wallpaper?No. I just mentioned what, in my opinion, is not suitable for living spaces. The question is what you want, what you like—regardless of whether you can carry it out yourselves.
We haven’t done everything ourselves either.
Pitigliano schrieb:
Because at some point you can’t paint layer upon layer anymore.It depends; with lime paint that’s possible. I believe silicate paint works too. Not with emulsion paint though, that’s true.Our plasterer recommended fully filling in the concrete ceilings, sanding them down, and then spraying paint on them.
He would do this... The plasterers apparently apply a sprayable filler, smooth it out, sand it (twice), and after that the ceiling is as smooth as car paint. The plasterer has already done excellent work for us... The plaster looks really good. We are currently still waiting for the quote for this.
But roughly speaking, what do you think? Does this cost significantly more than having a painter cover the ceilings completely with paintable fleece or a similar surface treatment?
And if so, how much more should something like this cost (in percentage terms)? Has anyone had experience with this?
He advised us against using paintable fleece because he said you often see air bubbles through it, shading appears, and it just doesn’t look perfectly clean.
On the walls, we will definitely apply a proper rolled plaster directly onto the gypsum ourselves.
He would do this... The plasterers apparently apply a sprayable filler, smooth it out, sand it (twice), and after that the ceiling is as smooth as car paint. The plasterer has already done excellent work for us... The plaster looks really good. We are currently still waiting for the quote for this.
But roughly speaking, what do you think? Does this cost significantly more than having a painter cover the ceilings completely with paintable fleece or a similar surface treatment?
And if so, how much more should something like this cost (in percentage terms)? Has anyone had experience with this?
He advised us against using paintable fleece because he said you often see air bubbles through it, shading appears, and it just doesn’t look perfectly clean.
On the walls, we will definitely apply a proper rolled plaster directly onto the gypsum ourselves.
As a plasterer, he has to say something like that.
At my neighbor’s, the painter offered both options, and painter’s fleece was at least more expensive in the offer. That makes sense, because at least one layer of filling and sanding is still necessary. The actual wallpapering is probably easier and faster than filling and sanding three times. The neighbor chose filling and sanding and is satisfied. But I think the painter probably regretted it. He was working there for about three weeks. He was alone and not there every day, but he really needed many visits.
I am currently having rough filling and sanding done, and wallpapering with painter’s fleece, but only on the ground floor. It costs 4,000 EUR plus materials (provided by me). I still have to do the painting myself.
At my neighbor’s, the painter offered both options, and painter’s fleece was at least more expensive in the offer. That makes sense, because at least one layer of filling and sanding is still necessary. The actual wallpapering is probably easier and faster than filling and sanding three times. The neighbor chose filling and sanding and is satisfied. But I think the painter probably regretted it. He was working there for about three weeks. He was alone and not there every day, but he really needed many visits.
I am currently having rough filling and sanding done, and wallpapering with painter’s fleece, but only on the ground floor. It costs 4,000 EUR plus materials (provided by me). I still have to do the painting myself.
Ask the painter; he will list the advantages of fleece wallpaper for you. When “selling” it, you don’t need to mention the disadvantages—if you provide five advantages, the customer will think there are no downsides. We have ceilings and walls covered with fleece wallpaper and painted in different colors (done by the painter).
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