Hello everyone,
We are currently planning the arrangement of our recessed lights—mainly in the shower area of our bathroom.
At the moment, our contract includes 4 recessed lights at our request, but this number can of course be increased or decreased anytime (1 recessed light for concrete ceiling = €70.00).
I have attached our bathroom on the upper floor.
Shower: the full depth to the "toilet wall" is 2.10 m (7 feet), with a width of 1.00 m (3 feet 3 inches). The wall towards the door will be built up three-quarters high, meaning the shower is not fully enclosed and may still get some light since the wall does not reach the ceiling. The toilet wall is half height and has glass above it, so light also comes in here. How many recessed lights would you install in the shower, and how would you arrange them? Are 4 recessed lights really necessary here?
I have also attached our kitchen on the ground floor.
We are planning to add 2 recessed lights above the breakfast bar, plus a normal ceiling light centered in the kitchen. Does this make sense or not? The kitchen is quite long, so we assume that 2 recessed lights above the bar area would improve the lighting.
We are also considering typical recessed lighting along the stairs—see the example image attached.
What do you think about that? Is the main contractor allowed to charge the €70.00 per recessed light here as well, or is it somehow cheaper to install wall-mounted lights? Does this make sense at all, or does anyone have experience with it? Or is it ultimately just a visual highlight that ends up costing a lot?
Otherwise, we are not planning any other recessed lights in the house.
We would appreciate brief feedback on our thoughts 🙂
We are currently planning the arrangement of our recessed lights—mainly in the shower area of our bathroom.
At the moment, our contract includes 4 recessed lights at our request, but this number can of course be increased or decreased anytime (1 recessed light for concrete ceiling = €70.00).
I have attached our bathroom on the upper floor.
Shower: the full depth to the "toilet wall" is 2.10 m (7 feet), with a width of 1.00 m (3 feet 3 inches). The wall towards the door will be built up three-quarters high, meaning the shower is not fully enclosed and may still get some light since the wall does not reach the ceiling. The toilet wall is half height and has glass above it, so light also comes in here. How many recessed lights would you install in the shower, and how would you arrange them? Are 4 recessed lights really necessary here?
I have also attached our kitchen on the ground floor.
We are planning to add 2 recessed lights above the breakfast bar, plus a normal ceiling light centered in the kitchen. Does this make sense or not? The kitchen is quite long, so we assume that 2 recessed lights above the bar area would improve the lighting.
We are also considering typical recessed lighting along the stairs—see the example image attached.
What do you think about that? Is the main contractor allowed to charge the €70.00 per recessed light here as well, or is it somehow cheaper to install wall-mounted lights? Does this make sense at all, or does anyone have experience with it? Or is it ultimately just a visual highlight that ends up costing a lot?
Otherwise, we are not planning any other recessed lights in the house.
We would appreciate brief feedback on our thoughts 🙂
Schimi17916 Apr 2021 17:14In the last 14 months, there have been no issues with three (out of three) USB outlets I mentioned in our case. With brands like Jung, Gira, and Busch-Jaeger, you probably pay extra for the name and design as well. I do not want to rule out that the (brand) quality also plays a role here. However, I am not able to assess if or how this quality becomes noticeable.
The NoNames have also been working perfectly for me for years. I installed the first one about 7 years ago in the kitchen area of my rental apartment.
Now, I would have liked to install the branded parts in the kitchen. However, there simply isn’t an original module with two USB ports available for my switch system.
Now, I would have liked to install the branded parts in the kitchen. However, there simply isn’t an original module with two USB ports available for my switch system.
I'm not a big fan of fixed USB outlets. Nowadays, phone chargers deliver 30 to 50W (watts), and in the future, probably even more. This means your phone or tablet can be ready to use again quickly. However, some fixed outlets from Busch-Jaeger only provide about 3W (watts), so the phone isn't fully charged even early in the morning. Tablets, especially from Apple, often won't accept such low power levels at all.
Sure, that's enough for a fitness tracker, but the effort involved isn't worth it for me.
Sure, that's enough for a fitness tracker, but the effort involved isn't worth it for me.
rdwlnts schrieb:
I'm not really a fan of fixed USB outlets. Phone chargers nowadays provide 30 to 50 watts (W), and in the future probably even more. This means phones or tablets can quickly be ready to use again. However, some fixed Busch Jäger outlets only deliver about 3 watts (W), so the phone isn't fully charged even early in the morning. Especially Apple tablets don’t accept such low power levels at all.
Sure, it’s enough for a fitness tracker, but in my opinion, the effort isn’t worth it. That’s exactly my point. USB technology is evolving. Anyone who has tried to navigate the specification jungle will feel dizzy.
rdwlnts schrieb:
I'm not really a fan of fixed USB sockets. Phone chargers nowadays charge at 30 to 50W, and probably even more in the future. That means the phone or tablet is ready to use again quickly. However, some fixed Busch-Jaeger sockets only output about 3W, so the phone is still not fully charged first thing in the morning. Tablets, especially from Apple, don’t even accept such low power levels.
Sure, that might be enough for a fitness tracker, but for me, the effort isn’t worth it. I’ll admit, out of habit we only have Apple devices/watches, and if they have to charge painfully slowly at the USB sockets, I’ll unsubscribe again.
Right now you mostly only get cables without plugs, and we have more devices than plugs. We thought this would solve the problem of plugs disappearing all the time 🙄
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