ᐅ Single-family house on a south-facing slope with a basement and ground floor (150–160 sqm)
Created on: 26 Oct 2020 16:55
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DaniMartinez
Hi,
after our first design turned out to be unrealistic budget-wise based on the initial offers, we discarded the plan with a basement and integrated garage.
The new plan is to build a lower ground floor on our south-facing slope, including a bedroom, two children’s rooms, a family bathroom, and a utility/technical room. Then on the ground floor, there would be an open living and dining area, a small pantry, a wardrobe area, and a shower bathroom. From the ground floor, you would then access the northwest garden and the terrace. The main entrance should be on the ground floor. We would prepare the attic for a future conversion or possibly integrate an office there if the budget allows. For now, the office will be set up in the second children’s room in the basement until it is needed! A carport or garage should be located on the south side or, if possible, on the east side.
Has anyone here completed a similar project or is currently planning one? Photos or ideas of floor plans would be great!
We would appreciate any feedback in any form. I have attached the list of details about the plot as well as a site plan! Our plot is number 6!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 557 sqm (6,000 sq ft approx.)
Slope: Yes (north-south gradient approx. 3.20 m (10.5 ft))
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Plot ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 meters (10 ft) from neighboring plot
Edge development:
Number of parking spaces: 1 garage/carport
Number of floors: 2 floors
Roof style: gable, hip, half-hipped roof
Architectural style: rather modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum heights/limits: total height 6.20 m (20.3 ft), ridge height 11 m (36 ft)
Additional requirements: town/villa style not allowed
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: no traditional basement, rather a lower ground floor with living space and partial cellar
Number of occupants, ages: currently 2 adults (37+35), 1 child (3 years) and soon another one
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: around 150-160 sqm (1,615 - 1,720 sq ft) total
Office: family use or home office? home office
Guests per year: few
Open or closed architecture: open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, kitchen island not mandatory
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall:
Balcony, roof terrace: possibly if the lower ground floor is planned slightly bigger on the overhang of the lower ground floor
Garage, carport: yes, at the front area of the plot
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
House Design
Planning source:
-builder’s planner: no
-architect: no
-do-it-yourself: no
What do you particularly like? Why?:
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal budget for the house including fittings: without ancillary costs and plot: €400,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal (mandated by the municipality), photovoltaic system desirable
If you had to compromise, on which details / additional features
-can you compromise:
-can’t you compromise: office
Why did the design turn out as it is now? e.g.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
after our first design turned out to be unrealistic budget-wise based on the initial offers, we discarded the plan with a basement and integrated garage.
The new plan is to build a lower ground floor on our south-facing slope, including a bedroom, two children’s rooms, a family bathroom, and a utility/technical room. Then on the ground floor, there would be an open living and dining area, a small pantry, a wardrobe area, and a shower bathroom. From the ground floor, you would then access the northwest garden and the terrace. The main entrance should be on the ground floor. We would prepare the attic for a future conversion or possibly integrate an office there if the budget allows. For now, the office will be set up in the second children’s room in the basement until it is needed! A carport or garage should be located on the south side or, if possible, on the east side.
Has anyone here completed a similar project or is currently planning one? Photos or ideas of floor plans would be great!
We would appreciate any feedback in any form. I have attached the list of details about the plot as well as a site plan! Our plot is number 6!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 557 sqm (6,000 sq ft approx.)
Slope: Yes (north-south gradient approx. 3.20 m (10.5 ft))
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Plot ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 meters (10 ft) from neighboring plot
Edge development:
Number of parking spaces: 1 garage/carport
Number of floors: 2 floors
Roof style: gable, hip, half-hipped roof
Architectural style: rather modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum heights/limits: total height 6.20 m (20.3 ft), ridge height 11 m (36 ft)
Additional requirements: town/villa style not allowed
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: no traditional basement, rather a lower ground floor with living space and partial cellar
Number of occupants, ages: currently 2 adults (37+35), 1 child (3 years) and soon another one
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: around 150-160 sqm (1,615 - 1,720 sq ft) total
Office: family use or home office? home office
Guests per year: few
Open or closed architecture: open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, kitchen island not mandatory
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall:
Balcony, roof terrace: possibly if the lower ground floor is planned slightly bigger on the overhang of the lower ground floor
Garage, carport: yes, at the front area of the plot
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
House Design
Planning source:
-builder’s planner: no
-architect: no
-do-it-yourself: no
What do you particularly like? Why?:
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal budget for the house including fittings: without ancillary costs and plot: €400,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal (mandated by the municipality), photovoltaic system desirable
If you had to compromise, on which details / additional features
-can you compromise:
-can’t you compromise: office
Why did the design turn out as it is now? e.g.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The overall concept of the layout on the ground floor is generally appealing, but the staircase appears very short. Since no dimensions are shown here, you should check this carefully. If it really is too short, it wouldn’t be a problem on the ground floor, but it could cause issues in the basement. The advice commonly given—to start with the upper floor first—should definitely be reversed because of the sloping site, so you should plan the basement first. Unfortunately, that’s the only way to go...
The bedroom is unacceptable, and even if the house were 1m wider (3 feet), it would still be a very small room. It also seems that the windows are located below the terrace. The walk-in closet within the bathroom is also rather unusual.
The bedroom is unacceptable, and even if the house were 1m wider (3 feet), it would still be a very small room. It also seems that the windows are located below the terrace. The walk-in closet within the bathroom is also rather unusual.
Mr.T2000 schrieb:In my opinion, that’s an open void, not an additional living room.
What I don’t quite understand is having two living/dining areas on the ground floor and upper floor. Do you really think you will carry food upstairs to the dining area on the upper floor over time?
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DaniMartinez2 Nov 2020 16:30Elokine schrieb:
I generally like the idea of the layout on the ground floor, but the staircase seems very short. Since there are no measurements visible here, you should check that. If it really is too short, it wouldn’t be a problem on the ground floor, but it would be an issue in the basement. The common advice you often see—to start with the upper floor—should definitely be reversed here because of the sloping site, and you should plan the basement first. Unfortunately, it’s just not right as it is...
The bedroom is not acceptable, and even if the house were 1 meter (3 feet) wider, it would still be a tiny room. Besides, it looks like the windows are below the terrace level.
Also, the walk-in closet inside the bathroom is rather unusual.
In my opinion, that is an open void space and not an additional living room. Exactly, it is supposed to be an open void space on the ground floor... !! I just forgot that word earlier...
And yes, the staircase is indeed too short... we are currently discussing how to efficiently design the basement... maybe some suggestions?
Wow, the design with the exterior staircase really reminds me of https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/2fh-Grundstück-mit-herausforderung.35966/.
The elevation representation now seems to have north at nine o’clock (?), and unfortunately shows few points on the property – does the slope continue evenly there?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
The elevation representation now seems to have north at nine o’clock (?), and unfortunately shows few points on the property – does the slope continue evenly there?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
I’m afraid that given the dimensions of the house and the special situation where two-thirds of the basement is built into the slope, a straight staircase is not suitable. Even with a different staircase, you can only have two rooms at the front with good natural light due to the width of the house.
I would consider widening the house while making it narrower in depth or explore an option where the master bedroom is not on the same floor as the children in the long term.
I would consider widening the house while making it narrower in depth or explore an option where the master bedroom is not on the same floor as the children in the long term.
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DaniMartinez2 Nov 2020 17:09Elokine schrieb:
I’m afraid that, given the house dimensions and the special situation where two-thirds of the basement is built into the slope, a straight staircase is not suitable. Even with a different staircase, with this house width you can only place two rooms at the front with good natural daylight.
I would consider widening the house and making it narrower in depth or think about an option where the master bedroom is not on the same floor as the children’s rooms long term. Good point. We had thought about that too. Would it be enough if we just widen the basement and then use the basement extension as a roof terrace for the ground floor, or would that not make sense?
matte1987 schrieb:
Will the office also be used for working, like a home office?
If so, I would strongly advise against the current layout and recommend a separate room. The sources of distraction are three times too high… Yes, it will definitely be used for work. We might even extend the wall completely there…
11ant schrieb:
Wow, the outside staircase makes the design remind me a lot of https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/2fh-Grundstück-mit-herausforderung.35966/
I believe the elevation diagram has north now at 9 o’clock (?) and unfortunately shows few points in the plot – does the slope continue evenly there? I’ll take a look at what you mean right away... I don’t quite understand it yet.
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