Hello,
can anyone maybe shed some light on this?
I've already heard from two companies that they cannot provide a quote for installing the washbasins we supplied ourselves because they are not allowed to install them dürfen. Even our plumber, who is handling the rest of the house installations, said he is not allowed to do it. Then I asked a carpentry company installing our staircase, and they also say they are not allowed to do it. I am also not receiving any offers or inquiries from my request for quotes on MyHammer.
I'm missing a piece of the puzzle here to understand. Why exactly is no one allowed to do this?
can anyone maybe shed some light on this?
I've already heard from two companies that they cannot provide a quote for installing the washbasins we supplied ourselves because they are not allowed to install them dürfen. Even our plumber, who is handling the rest of the house installations, said he is not allowed to do it. Then I asked a carpentry company installing our staircase, and they also say they are not allowed to do it. I am also not receiving any offers or inquiries from my request for quotes on MyHammer.
I'm missing a piece of the puzzle here to understand. Why exactly is no one allowed to do this?
Nida35a schrieb:
We don’t know his calculation for heating/plumbing; hopefully there is a total amount listed, but it’s roughly in that range.Total amount minus furniture = remaining costs I want him to cover!
Basically, a simple calculation.
As I said, I’m aware it won’t be that simple in practice and that theory and reality differ significantly.
Tonight we’ll try our luck and see how he argues.
exto1791 schrieb:
Is this way of thinking wrong? Yes. When working with a general contractor (GC), the trades are often pushed to the point of near loss. The quality standard is therefore deliberately set low — they then make their profit through upcharges. This is especially common in heating, plumbing, and tiling. You end up going to the bathroom showroom and paying the list price, while the installer receives double-digit percentage cashback depending on the number of customers for the "referral."
However, the advantage compared to ordering from Reuters directly is that all small parts and installation aids are included — because if you, as a layperson, forget a clamp, who pays for the unnecessary trip of the installer, who was actually scheduled for your construction site all day?
And: if the bathtub leaks, Reuters will just send you a new one delivered curbside. But then what? The installer is still responsible for the entire trade, meaning they have to handle removal and installation in that case. Among other reasons, that is why the bathroom showroom gets a commission!
Also: the installer is responsible for the products installed from Reuter, even if it was not their fault. So in this example, they would have to install the replacement tub for free even though they only received payment for the initial work on your Reuter bathtub!
*Reuters used here as a representative example for all online retailers.
You can also have just the rough installation and bathtub done professionally. For the rest, like installing the toilet, washbasin, holders for toilet paper and towels, shower enclosure, and fixtures, you can try to do it yourself. Don’t forget to finish with silicone sealant. You might also want to have a tiler available, and keep in mind that the move-in time will likely be extended accordingly.
However, if you decide to skip the basin and similar items, the contractor will probably only credit you a small amount. If you wanted that, it should have been arranged before signing the contract, fixing your desired standard (series, manufacturer, size) at that point. Now it’s... too late!
However, if you decide to skip the basin and similar items, the contractor will probably only credit you a small amount. If you wanted that, it should have been arranged before signing the contract, fixing your desired standard (series, manufacturer, size) at that point. Now it’s... too late!
Scout schrieb:
You can also have just the rough installation plus the bathtub done. For the rest, like installing the toilet, washbasin, holders for the toilet paper and towels, shower enclosure, and fixtures, you can try to do it yourself. Don’t forget the silicone at the end. And you might also want to have a tiler ready, which will likely extend the move-in time accordingly.
However, for leaving out the basin and so on, he will probably only credit you a small amount. If anything, you would have had to arrange that BEFORE signing the contract and fix your desired standard (series, manufacturer, size) then. Now it’s ... too late! We are not even close to signing the contract yet.
It is expected to be signed in about 4-8 weeks. He hasn’t received an "official" award yet. In other words, everything is still open.
exto1791 schrieb:
We are not even close to signing the contract yet.
It is expected to be signed in 4-8 weeks. He has also not received an "official" award yet. In other words, everything is still open.Well, then you still have room to negotiate!
exto1791 schrieb:
But only charging me for half? Come on, that would be a complete rip-off.Haha, "would be" is subjunctive *LOL* But to turn the question around and ask the home builders naively: where exactly is the general contractor supposed to make their profit—does anyone seriously believe that’s possible at the "stacking bricks" stage?
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