Hello,
can anyone maybe shed some light on this?
I've already heard from two companies that they cannot provide a quote for installing the washbasins we supplied ourselves because they are not allowed to install them dürfen. Even our plumber, who is handling the rest of the house installations, said he is not allowed to do it. Then I asked a carpentry company installing our staircase, and they also say they are not allowed to do it. I am also not receiving any offers or inquiries from my request for quotes on MyHammer.
I'm missing a piece of the puzzle here to understand. Why exactly is no one allowed to do this?
can anyone maybe shed some light on this?
I've already heard from two companies that they cannot provide a quote for installing the washbasins we supplied ourselves because they are not allowed to install them dürfen. Even our plumber, who is handling the rest of the house installations, said he is not allowed to do it. Then I asked a carpentry company installing our staircase, and they also say they are not allowed to do it. I am also not receiving any offers or inquiries from my request for quotes on MyHammer.
I'm missing a piece of the puzzle here to understand. Why exactly is no one allowed to do this?
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Pinkiponk6 Jul 2020 10:58Which region do you live in? If it’s nearby, I can ask my husband. We currently live in the Karlsruhe district and are moving to the Leipzig district.
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Pinkiponk6 Jul 2020 11:00Oh, I just realized that I didn’t answer your question and actually cannot answer it.
So most people think they simply don’t want to do it but still say they “aren’t allowed to”?
I find that strange. For example, the carpenter is going to be in the house anyway for the staircase. He wouldn’t even have travel costs, and could easily give me a proper invoice for it. :/
The plumber also mentioned something about warranty claims, but I didn’t fully understand. He’s also working in our house, installing the bathtub, toilets, and shower. I said we could also exclude the warranty. But he said it “doesn’t matter what I sign,” because if it ever went to court, he would always be liable if “water comes out of the wall.”
But I wonder whether he wouldn’t be liable anyway if water appears somewhere that’s not coming from a pipe. I mean, it can’t be my sink if, for example, water is flowing inside the wall under the plaster, right?
If water comes out of a pipe and floods my bathroom, then that’s my fault / the fault of the sink installation. That should be clearly distinguishable, or am I missing something?
I find that strange. For example, the carpenter is going to be in the house anyway for the staircase. He wouldn’t even have travel costs, and could easily give me a proper invoice for it. :/
The plumber also mentioned something about warranty claims, but I didn’t fully understand. He’s also working in our house, installing the bathtub, toilets, and shower. I said we could also exclude the warranty. But he said it “doesn’t matter what I sign,” because if it ever went to court, he would always be liable if “water comes out of the wall.”
But I wonder whether he wouldn’t be liable anyway if water appears somewhere that’s not coming from a pipe. I mean, it can’t be my sink if, for example, water is flowing inside the wall under the plaster, right?
If water comes out of a pipe and floods my bathroom, then that’s my fault / the fault of the sink installation. That should be clearly distinguishable, or am I missing something?
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T_im_Norden6 Jul 2020 12:06They don’t want to because there are always disputes about who is responsible for a defect that occurs.
Suppose he connects it and later you find a crack in the washbasin.
Is it his fault?
Was it a material defect?
Did you cause it and blame him?
Is the basin even suitable?
There are many uncertainties that he prefers to avoid.
On the other hand, he doesn’t make much profit from this compared to the parts he supplies, where he can add a good margin.
Suppose he connects it and later you find a crack in the washbasin.
Is it his fault?
Was it a material defect?
Did you cause it and blame him?
Is the basin even suitable?
There are many uncertainties that he prefers to avoid.
On the other hand, he doesn’t make much profit from this compared to the parts he supplies, where he can add a good margin.
The warranty does not only cover the installation but also the washbasin, which he did not supply and is not familiar with.
If there is a contractual exclusion, it will end up in court, and one clause was incorrect. That’s unfortunate for the tradesman.
So it’s best to avoid it. I understand every tradesman in this situation.
If there is a contractual exclusion, it will end up in court, and one clause was incorrect. That’s unfortunate for the tradesman.
So it’s best to avoid it. I understand every tradesman in this situation.
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