ᐅ Basement as a Watertight Concrete Structure – Heating Options?
Created on: 30 Jun 2020 15:50
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TommyDHello everyone,
I have been a silent reader here for a long time and find the helpful answers really good!
We are slowly starting to explore the topic of house construction and are now just about to start the floor plan design for a semi-detached house.
We are currently stuck on the subject of the basement. Due to groundwater pressure, we are planning on a waterproof concrete shell (“white tank”).
I have read extensively on this topic but now actually have more questions than certainty or knowledge.
What about heating a waterproof concrete shell?
--> We want to hang laundry in one of the basement rooms.
What about perimeter insulation and vapor barrier?
--> Does this also play a role in heating? Should all rooms that are heated be insulated from the outside?
Is it absolutely necessary to heat all rooms if they are insulated from the outside?
Does a full underfloor heating system make sense, possibly including a ventilation system (underfloor heating plus ventilation is installed in the rest of the house)?
Thank you in advance for your help!
I have been a silent reader here for a long time and find the helpful answers really good!
We are slowly starting to explore the topic of house construction and are now just about to start the floor plan design for a semi-detached house.
We are currently stuck on the subject of the basement. Due to groundwater pressure, we are planning on a waterproof concrete shell (“white tank”).
I have read extensively on this topic but now actually have more questions than certainty or knowledge.
What about heating a waterproof concrete shell?
--> We want to hang laundry in one of the basement rooms.
What about perimeter insulation and vapor barrier?
--> Does this also play a role in heating? Should all rooms that are heated be insulated from the outside?
Is it absolutely necessary to heat all rooms if they are insulated from the outside?
Does a full underfloor heating system make sense, possibly including a ventilation system (underfloor heating plus ventilation is installed in the rest of the house)?
Thank you in advance for your help!
TommyD schrieb:
Hello everyone,
I have been a silent reader here for a long time and really appreciate the helpful answers!
We are slowly approaching the topic of house construction and are now about to start planning the floor plan for a semi-detached house.
We are currently stuck on the basement issue. Due to hydrostatic pressure, we are planning to use a waterproof concrete shell (white tank).
I have read a lot about this topic, but now I actually have more questions than certainties or knowledge.
What about heating a waterproof concrete shell?
--> We want to hang laundry in one of the basement rooms.
What about perimeter insulation and vapor barrier?
--> Does that also play a role when it comes to heating? Should all rooms be insulated from the outside if they are heated?
Do I have to heat all rooms if they are externally insulated?
Does it make sense to have full underfloor heating, possibly even a ventilation system (underfloor and ventilation in the rest of the house are planned)?
Thank you very much in advance for your help! We also have hydrostatic pressure, but I never really gave it much thought and don’t think it’s necessarily required.
---> Hanging laundry in basement rooms is definitely not a problem. That is one of the reasons why we are building a basement.
--> You can install underfloor heating in the basement as well. We probably won’t do this since we don’t see it as necessary for a utility basement like ours. It’s also a cost factor, but technically this is definitely possible.
--> You don’t necessarily have to heat the basement, but obviously the rooms on the ground floor and upper floor should be heated.
TommyD schrieb:
Thanks for your reply.
I have read many forum posts about mold stains, poor indoor air quality in waterproofed basements, and moisture problems on interior walls in general.
Does anyone here have issues with this? With a central controlled residential ventilation system in the basement, underfloor heating, regular airing, and occasionally using a dehumidifier, there are no mold stains or poor indoor air quality, and after almost one year my indoor humidity has stayed around 60% plus or minus 5%.
But I’m not sure what you expect from your basement—without the measures mentioned above, your humidity will remain above 65% during the winter and climb towards 70% in summer. At a consistently high level of 60% to 70%, a musty smell will slowly develop.
Zaba12 schrieb:
With a central controlled ventilation system in the basement, underfloor heating, occasional airing, and using a dehumidifier from time to time, there are no mold spots or poor indoor air quality. At least my humidity has been around 60% plus or minus 5% after nearly one year.
But I don’t know what you expect from your basement—without the above measures, your humidity will stay above 65% in winter and rise to around 70% in summer. At a consistent high 60% or 70%, it will gradually start to develop a musty smell. Thanks!
I only know dry basements without any musty smells from friends and relatives. At least for my relatives, I can say they do not use dehumidifiers and only heat their basements occasionally. But these are all masonry basements where groundwater is not an issue.
My question was aimed at experiences and whether I need to take measures with a waterproof concrete shell ("white tank").
The answer is therefore yes: heating, dehumidifier, and ventilation.
For me, this also means additional ongoing costs even if I only use the basement for storage.
Masonry or a waterproof concrete basement, what difference does it really make? With a masonry basement, you will likely face problems with moisture after a few years.
You don’t have to heat the basement, but it is recommended if you want to use the rooms for other purposes. It will never get cooler than 18°C (64°F) in winter and about 20-21°C (68-70°F) in summer. Humidity is around 50% in winter and, as Zaba mentioned, about 60-65% in summer.
If you do laundry and dry clothes there, you definitely need to run a dehumidifier sometimes; otherwise, it will get musty. This is logical because you cannot ventilate a basement as well. In fact, you shouldn’t open the windows at all in summer.
You don’t have to heat the basement, but it is recommended if you want to use the rooms for other purposes. It will never get cooler than 18°C (64°F) in winter and about 20-21°C (68-70°F) in summer. Humidity is around 50% in winter and, as Zaba mentioned, about 60-65% in summer.
If you do laundry and dry clothes there, you definitely need to run a dehumidifier sometimes; otherwise, it will get musty. This is logical because you cannot ventilate a basement as well. In fact, you shouldn’t open the windows at all in summer.
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