ᐅ Floor Plan Optimization for a Single-Family Home of Approximately 150 sqm on a Small Plot
Created on: 18 Aug 2020 20:31
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Yaso2.0
Hello everyone,
After what felt like forever, we finally received the floor plan (without exact dimensions) today from our preferred general contractor. Although the planner noted our requests during the meeting, some of them don’t seem to have been fully incorporated.
The price offer will be prepared once the floor plan is finalized, especially if the size increases.
I would like to share the floor plan with you and hear your suggestions for improvements!
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 389sqm (4187 sq ft)
Sloping site
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio 0.70
Building envelope, building line, and boundary
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights / limits
Additional requirements
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: City villa
Basement, number of stories: 2 stories, no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 3 persons (44, 38, 9)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Kitchen, living room, guest WC, utility room, and if possible, a small office
Office: family use or home office?
Guests for overnight stays vary widely
Open or closed architecture partly/partly
Conservative or modern style: a healthy mix of both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: semi-open kitchen, kitchen island not mandatory
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: possibly
Music / stereo wall
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport
Utility garden, greenhouse, garden for pleasant evenings
Additional wishes / special features / daily routines, including reasons why certain elements are wanted or not
We want a larger but semi-open kitchen because I cook and/or bake daily. A pantry would be great but I would also give it up if it means more counter space in the kitchen.
Ideally, I would like a laundry room on the upper floor since all the laundry tasks happen upstairs.
House design
Planner:
- Planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? Pantry room,
In the upper floor, the bedroom does not directly adjoin the children’s rooms
What do you dislike? Why?
Kitchen accessible only through the living room, hallway seems like wasted space??, kitchen counter size too small,
Cost estimate by architect/planner: still open, to follow after floor plan and house size are finalized
Personal budget limit for the house including fixtures and fittings:
Preferred heating system:
If you had to compromise, on which details / additions
- Could you do without: walk-in closet
- Could you not do without: “larger” kitchen
Why is the design the way it is now?
The general contractor’s planner asked about our preferences and created the floor plan accordingly. Apparently, an office didn’t fit. The requirement was that we ideally don’t want more than 150sqm (1615 sq ft), a kitchen size of at least 13sqm (140 sq ft) would be nice, and if possible, no straight staircase.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your eyes?
The hallway seems to take up too much space without much utility, the kitchen feels too small.
The walk-in closet is “enclosed” and should be accessible via the corridor.
We like that the children’s rooms are exactly the same size. The future child planning is currently flexible.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can we make the kitchen accessible through the hallway and semi-open, without making it too small?
Would a different staircase allow for a better layout?
Or are our wishes not feasible within 150sqm?
Thanks in advance!
After what felt like forever, we finally received the floor plan (without exact dimensions) today from our preferred general contractor. Although the planner noted our requests during the meeting, some of them don’t seem to have been fully incorporated.
The price offer will be prepared once the floor plan is finalized, especially if the size increases.
I would like to share the floor plan with you and hear your suggestions for improvements!
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 389sqm (4187 sq ft)
Sloping site
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio 0.70
Building envelope, building line, and boundary
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights / limits
Additional requirements
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: City villa
Basement, number of stories: 2 stories, no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 3 persons (44, 38, 9)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Kitchen, living room, guest WC, utility room, and if possible, a small office
Office: family use or home office?
Guests for overnight stays vary widely
Open or closed architecture partly/partly
Conservative or modern style: a healthy mix of both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: semi-open kitchen, kitchen island not mandatory
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: possibly
Music / stereo wall
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport
Utility garden, greenhouse, garden for pleasant evenings
Additional wishes / special features / daily routines, including reasons why certain elements are wanted or not
We want a larger but semi-open kitchen because I cook and/or bake daily. A pantry would be great but I would also give it up if it means more counter space in the kitchen.
Ideally, I would like a laundry room on the upper floor since all the laundry tasks happen upstairs.
House design
Planner:
- Planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? Pantry room,
In the upper floor, the bedroom does not directly adjoin the children’s rooms
What do you dislike? Why?
Kitchen accessible only through the living room, hallway seems like wasted space??, kitchen counter size too small,
Cost estimate by architect/planner: still open, to follow after floor plan and house size are finalized
Personal budget limit for the house including fixtures and fittings:
Preferred heating system:
If you had to compromise, on which details / additions
- Could you do without: walk-in closet
- Could you not do without: “larger” kitchen
Why is the design the way it is now?
The general contractor’s planner asked about our preferences and created the floor plan accordingly. Apparently, an office didn’t fit. The requirement was that we ideally don’t want more than 150sqm (1615 sq ft), a kitchen size of at least 13sqm (140 sq ft) would be nice, and if possible, no straight staircase.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your eyes?
The hallway seems to take up too much space without much utility, the kitchen feels too small.
The walk-in closet is “enclosed” and should be accessible via the corridor.
We like that the children’s rooms are exactly the same size. The future child planning is currently flexible.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can we make the kitchen accessible through the hallway and semi-open, without making it too small?
Would a different staircase allow for a better layout?
Or are our wishes not feasible within 150sqm?
Thanks in advance!
Pinky0301 schrieb:
I looked at the site plan in #1 again. I don’t think you can change the exterior dimensions that much, can you?Good point – and you can, not only that, you should. So I’m withdrawing the “Ten by Eleven” proposal and switching to “Nine by Twelve” instead (which might mean moving away from the Shiny example and possibly following @Zaba12’s approach). Regarding the plot, I see a decision is needed: either keep the south side as the main facade or switch to west – the rectangle’s orientation would then follow accordingly. By the way, I also linked to Schnuckline and Ev-Marie in post #417 of the Shiny thread (please note thread/link errors that appeared later)!
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Yaso2.0 schrieb:
then I must be so dumb as to misunderstand the input here and pass it on incorrectly.Well, I already suggested the missing wardrobe as well as the kitchen island, which seems a bit small. In my opinion, these things stick in the builder’s mind, and one discusses such points with the designer when reviewing their own house plans. You reflect on everything that offers food for thought, both personally and together with the designer.
You don’t have to comment on this here, but you should consider whether there is some truth to it (in both respects – advice and approach/communication).
11ant schrieb:
So I am withdrawing the “Ten by Eleven” suggestion and switching to “Nine by Twelve” (which might mean moving away from the Shiny model and having to continue with @Zaba12). This would be this thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-fuer-11m-x-8-25m-ok.24781/ – alternatively, there is also a variant with @Tolentino: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/lage-stadtvilla-oder-efh-auf-500-m2-rechteck.33505/page-41#post-409926
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Alessandro8 Sep 2020 07:3011ant schrieb:
Opening your pants button because you’ve overeaten isn’t really smart. Here, the living room simply didn’t fit within the floor plan, so the layout was expanded with a corner bay window. Cheating isn’t clever, at best it’s just a crafty workaround.According to your logic, then anyone who has a bay window must have planned it incorrectly, right?! A bay window creates a completely different spatial experience and has nothing to do with poor planning.
But whatever. The floor plan has already been submitted anyway.
Alessandro schrieb:
According to your logic, then everyone who has a bay window must have planned it incorrectly, right?!I actually think so. At least for me, this issue has come up quite a few times.
ypg schrieb:
Well, I already pointed out the missing wardrobe closet to you, as well as the kitchen island, which seems a bit small. In my opinion, things like that stay with the builder, and you also discuss such details with the designer when reading something about your own house planning.
You question everything for yourself and also with the designer that provides food for thought.
You don’t have to write anything about it here, but you should consider whether there’s some truth to it (in both respects – advice and approach/communication). Unfortunately, I don’t know which missing wardrobe closet you mean? There is one shown in the plan.
I am a reasonable person and often question myself as well.
So either I am expressing myself incorrectly/awkwardly or my counterpart isn’t listening carefully.
The designer is still very young and, as I already mentioned, does not have much experience with detached single-family house planning.
I thought it would be great to support a young, committed woman so that her experience could expand in this area. Right after the first floor plan drafts, I told her that the house doesn’t have to be a square and that she can plan it as a rectangle. Yet, all designs still came in a 10 x 10m (33 x 33 ft) format.
I think she is simply still too focused on her work with semi-detached houses and terraced houses—everything is square, everything perfectly aligned, etc.
We have met three times in 14 days, and even then I told her, for example, that the windows don’t have to line up exactly millimeter by millimeter, as long as the rooms are well designed.
I mean, I can’t say much more than that.
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