ᐅ Single-family home, approximately 160 m², Bauhaus style; first design draft based on our requirements
Created on: 23 Aug 2019 22:03
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Notstrom
Hello everyone,
we've been looking forward to this for a long time, and now we can finally share our first draft floor plan/design for discussion. We’re very curious to hear your feedback.
Those of you who have seen my thread before (https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-Bauhausstil-Wohnfläche-180m-mit-Doppelgarage.31853/) know what to expect, and here comes the gem.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 530m² (about 5,700 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): see screenshot
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): see screenshot
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: see screenshot
Edge development: see screenshot
Number of parking spaces: double garage
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: flat roof
Architectural style: Bauhaus
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations
Other requirements
The green highlighted area represents our plot => Parcel 8479
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Bauhaus style, flat roof
Basement, floors: Basement yes, ground floor, upper floor
Number of residents, ages: 3 people, potentially 4: 33, 30, 2 years old
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: Initially planned 180 m² (about 1,940 sq ft) on two stories, now reduced to 160 m² (about 1,720 sq ft) after feedback, with the ground floor slightly larger than the upper floor, around 75–85 m² (810–915 sq ft)
Office: Family use or home office? Yes, in the basement (guest room <-> office)
Overnight guests per year: Hard to say, probably about 10 times per year with 2–5 guests each time
Open or closed architecture: Rather open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: Island
Number of dining spaces: 1
Fireplace: Yes
Music/sound system wall: Our soundbar is sufficient
Balcony, roof terrace: Maybe, undecided (Architect’s comment: How often do you really go out for a beer on the balcony/roof terrace instead of the nice terrace on the ground floor?)
Garage, carport: Double garage, possibly single garage with carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: Small but nice (a few tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchinis…)
House Design
Planning by: Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? We like the architecture with the two offset rectangles, though we wonder if the extra cost (no price estimate yet) justifies this. We believe it is structurally more challenging than a simple "cube."
What don’t you like? Why? The size of the bedroom/walk-in closet/children’s room. It feels like the bedroom is missing 2–5 m² (about 20–55 sq ft), as is the second children’s room.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: The initial draft was around 550,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 620,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: Indifferent, but tendency toward heat pump.
If you had to give up something, which details/finishes
- You can give up: the current shape (nice but a cube would also do)
- You cannot give up: space
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? This is the second design resulting from last week’s discussion with us, and we find it very successful.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Absolutely, plus the idea he had to move the kitchen during development. The guest room has now moved to the basement, allowing more space on the ground floor (beforehand, it felt quite cramped and “squeezed”).
What makes it especially good or bad in your opinion? The architecture
...and now I’ll leave you alone with our house
Upper floor plan:
Basement:
we've been looking forward to this for a long time, and now we can finally share our first draft floor plan/design for discussion. We’re very curious to hear your feedback.
Those of you who have seen my thread before (https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-Bauhausstil-Wohnfläche-180m-mit-Doppelgarage.31853/) know what to expect, and here comes the gem.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 530m² (about 5,700 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): see screenshot
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): see screenshot
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: see screenshot
Edge development: see screenshot
Number of parking spaces: double garage
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: flat roof
Architectural style: Bauhaus
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations
Other requirements
The green highlighted area represents our plot => Parcel 8479
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Bauhaus style, flat roof
Basement, floors: Basement yes, ground floor, upper floor
Number of residents, ages: 3 people, potentially 4: 33, 30, 2 years old
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: Initially planned 180 m² (about 1,940 sq ft) on two stories, now reduced to 160 m² (about 1,720 sq ft) after feedback, with the ground floor slightly larger than the upper floor, around 75–85 m² (810–915 sq ft)
Office: Family use or home office? Yes, in the basement (guest room <-> office)
Overnight guests per year: Hard to say, probably about 10 times per year with 2–5 guests each time
Open or closed architecture: Rather open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: Island
Number of dining spaces: 1
Fireplace: Yes
Music/sound system wall: Our soundbar is sufficient
Balcony, roof terrace: Maybe, undecided (Architect’s comment: How often do you really go out for a beer on the balcony/roof terrace instead of the nice terrace on the ground floor?)
Garage, carport: Double garage, possibly single garage with carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: Small but nice (a few tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchinis…)
House Design
Planning by: Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? We like the architecture with the two offset rectangles, though we wonder if the extra cost (no price estimate yet) justifies this. We believe it is structurally more challenging than a simple "cube."
What don’t you like? Why? The size of the bedroom/walk-in closet/children’s room. It feels like the bedroom is missing 2–5 m² (about 20–55 sq ft), as is the second children’s room.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: The initial draft was around 550,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 620,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: Indifferent, but tendency toward heat pump.
If you had to give up something, which details/finishes
- You can give up: the current shape (nice but a cube would also do)
- You cannot give up: space
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? This is the second design resulting from last week’s discussion with us, and we find it very successful.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Absolutely, plus the idea he had to move the kitchen during development. The guest room has now moved to the basement, allowing more space on the ground floor (beforehand, it felt quite cramped and “squeezed”).
What makes it especially good or bad in your opinion? The architecture
...and now I’ll leave you alone with our house
Upper floor plan:
Basement:
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Matthew0313 Nov 2019 11:10Notstrom schrieb:
Get-up time? Advantages? Am I misunderstanding this, or don’t two doors solve the issue of bridging get-up times? But you still always walk right past the foot of the bed, and if you forget something, you have to go back and start over. I find this door unnecessary, and as I said, the initial design was much better. We enter the "sleeping area" through the dressing room; to the left is the bed, to the right the master bathroom. So, after getting up, you don’t have to return to or pass by the bed again. Since I sometimes have later shifts and can stay in bed a bit longer, this turned out to be a real advantage, and I’m glad it’s like this.
Additionally, your plan includes a hidden and thus cozy, comfortable area. For me, this is very positive, but others might feel confined—so this is entirely subjective and depends on your personal preference.
kaho674 schrieb:
The stairwell wall is only as high as the handrail – that wasn’t clear in the sketch (walls that don’t reach the ceiling are usually shown in a different color). So I actually find the "handrail" acceptable. kaho674 schrieb:
I’m also fine with skylights, but I wouldn’t install them in the bathrooms. I’d rather split the windows and use frosted glass at the bottom, or another pattern. Or simply a curtain, or a sheer Roman blind, or so on... Good point, noted.
Matthew03 schrieb:
But you still always walk right past the foot of the bed, which means going back if you forgot something and starting over.
I find this door unnecessary, and as I said, the first plan for it was much better. We enter the "sleeping area" through the walk-in closet; the bed is to the left, the master bathroom to the right, so after getting up you don’t have to go back to or past the bed. Since I sometimes have late shifts and can stay in bed a bit longer, this has proven to be a benefit, and I’m glad it’s set up like this.
Also, in your plan, the hidden area creates a cozy and intimate feeling. For me, that’s totally positive; others might feel confined, so this is completely subjective and depends on your personal preferences. I understand (with the second door), but then an additional third door to the bathroom?
I find a two-door solution in the bathroom a bit complicated, or am I misunderstanding it?
In the end, I’d have to make sure both doors are always locked, and that seems a bit troublesome to me.
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Matthew0313 Nov 2019 13:35You misunderstand me; I wasn’t referring to a bathroom in your case.
What I meant is that one door to the walk-in closet is sufficient, from where you then enter the bedroom. No additional door is needed there!
To put it even more simply: build like in post #192.
What I meant is that one door to the walk-in closet is sufficient, from where you then enter the bedroom. No additional door is needed there!
To put it even more simply: build like in post #192.
Notstrom schrieb:
With the idea: "YOU walk into your bedroom and see a large wall"That’s awesome! But it really depends on how you design your walk-in closet: messy or like Sex and the City
kaho674 schrieb:
Off topic: I just saw this on Amazon and instantly fell in love with this total kitsch:Even though I’m probably too late and everyone likes the corner/corner doors between the living room and kitchen/dining area.
How cool would it be to simply leave them out, especially with the beautiful staircase. Yes, it’s all open of course, but I would really love that kind of spacious feeling.
I’m just positively biased. I really like open layouts.
How cool would it be to simply leave them out, especially with the beautiful staircase. Yes, it’s all open of course, but I would really love that kind of spacious feeling.
I’m just positively biased. I really like open layouts.
Zaba12 schrieb:
Even though I’m probably too late and everyone likes the corner/ corner doors between the living room & kitchen/ dining area.
How cool would it be to just leave those out, especially with the beautiful staircase. Yes, everything would be open, but I would really love that kind of spacious feeling.
I’m just biased in a positive way. I really like open layouts. I completely agree with you.
I would shorten the hallway and only separate it slightly with a short freestanding wall (for example, exactly where the passage between dining and living room is now or in front of the basement stairs).
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