ᐅ Single-family house – flat roof – edge of forest location – 175 sqm
Created on: 16 Feb 2019 22:03
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benediktr
After being a silent reader in this forum for a long time, I would now like to share my thoughts and ideas with you. I hope to receive some suggestions for improvement and constructive feedback.
Unfortunately, I cannot provide a site plan at the moment. Therefore, here is a screenshot of the property. I have roughly traced it on the ground floor plan. The exact orientation definitely needs further planning. It is plot number 51.
Below, I try to outline the essentials in the questionnaire.
Development plan/restrictions
Section 34 of the Building Code
Plot size
580 sqm (6,243 sq ft)
Slope
No direct slope; terrain descends about 3 m (10 ft) from north to south and roughly 3 m (10 ft) from west to east; retaining wall to the south present
Building setbacks
North/East/South – 3 m (10 ft), West – 6 m (20 ft)
Number of parking spaces
1-2
Number of floors
2 full stories plus basement
Roof type
Flat roof
Architectural style
Modern
Orientation
Southwest
Maximum heights/limits
-
Other specifications
Owners’ requirements
Room layout as shown in the plan; spacious living-dining-kitchen area
Style, roof type, building type
Flat roof
Number of occupants, ages
Currently 2 people, 28 and 26 years old; planning for 1-2 children
Room requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
GF: living, dining, kitchen, utility room, WC
UF: bathroom, 2 children's rooms, bedroom plus walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office?
Family use
Guest overnight stays per year
Very seldom
Open or closed architecture
Open
Conservative or modern construction
Modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
Corner fireplace
Music/stereo wall
No
Additional wishes/particularities/daily routine, including reasons for preferences
- Staircase from ground floor to upper floor should start in the dining area and not be visible from the living room
- Living room preferably on the west side, as we both work very long hours
House design
Who did the planning?
Do-it-yourself, using various floor plans as templates
What do you particularly like? Why?
Straight staircase, layout of living, dining, and kitchen areas, corner fireplace
What do you not like? Why?
I am unsure if the rooms upstairs might be a bit too narrow due to the straight staircase. This could be improved with a landing staircase, but that is just a minor point to accept.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
450,000
Preferred heating technology:
Gas condensing boiler, possibly with a water jacket in the fireplace
If you have to give up something, what details/features
- can you forgo? Partition separating the WC in the bathroom
- cannot you do without? Walk-in closet
Why did the design become what it is now?
Room orientation on the plot guided the design based on our wishes. View to the west, looking over forest and fields. Access from the north to avoid an outdoor staircase.
What do you think are its strengths or weaknesses?
We would prefer to avoid floor-to-ceiling windows on the south side, as the neighbor’s front door is there, which is not ideal for brightness. Large window fronts on the west side due to the view, as mentioned. A window in the walk-in closet could still be planned.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Do you think the upper floor rooms might feel "narrow and elongated"? Budget?
Unfortunately, I cannot provide a site plan at the moment. Therefore, here is a screenshot of the property. I have roughly traced it on the ground floor plan. The exact orientation definitely needs further planning. It is plot number 51.
Below, I try to outline the essentials in the questionnaire.
Development plan/restrictions
Section 34 of the Building Code
Plot size
580 sqm (6,243 sq ft)
Slope
No direct slope; terrain descends about 3 m (10 ft) from north to south and roughly 3 m (10 ft) from west to east; retaining wall to the south present
Building setbacks
North/East/South – 3 m (10 ft), West – 6 m (20 ft)
Number of parking spaces
1-2
Number of floors
2 full stories plus basement
Roof type
Flat roof
Architectural style
Modern
Orientation
Southwest
Maximum heights/limits
-
Other specifications
Owners’ requirements
Room layout as shown in the plan; spacious living-dining-kitchen area
Style, roof type, building type
Flat roof
Number of occupants, ages
Currently 2 people, 28 and 26 years old; planning for 1-2 children
Room requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
GF: living, dining, kitchen, utility room, WC
UF: bathroom, 2 children's rooms, bedroom plus walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office?
Family use
Guest overnight stays per year
Very seldom
Open or closed architecture
Open
Conservative or modern construction
Modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
Corner fireplace
Music/stereo wall
No
Additional wishes/particularities/daily routine, including reasons for preferences
- Staircase from ground floor to upper floor should start in the dining area and not be visible from the living room
- Living room preferably on the west side, as we both work very long hours
House design
Who did the planning?
Do-it-yourself, using various floor plans as templates
What do you particularly like? Why?
Straight staircase, layout of living, dining, and kitchen areas, corner fireplace
What do you not like? Why?
I am unsure if the rooms upstairs might be a bit too narrow due to the straight staircase. This could be improved with a landing staircase, but that is just a minor point to accept.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
450,000
Preferred heating technology:
Gas condensing boiler, possibly with a water jacket in the fireplace
If you have to give up something, what details/features
- can you forgo? Partition separating the WC in the bathroom
- cannot you do without? Walk-in closet
Why did the design become what it is now?
Room orientation on the plot guided the design based on our wishes. View to the west, looking over forest and fields. Access from the north to avoid an outdoor staircase.
What do you think are its strengths or weaknesses?
We would prefer to avoid floor-to-ceiling windows on the south side, as the neighbor’s front door is there, which is not ideal for brightness. Large window fronts on the west side due to the view, as mentioned. A window in the walk-in closet could still be planned.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Do you think the upper floor rooms might feel "narrow and elongated"? Budget?
The pantry doesn’t need to be that large; it’s more of a storage space for mops, vacuum cleaners, and other items.
A full basement is still planned. It’s going to be a huge house. In my opinion, the steep slope and other factors haven’t been taken into account at all.
Is this the result?
Unfortunately, there are only two measurements and no indication of the house’s position on the plan... and where is the garage supposed to go? In the basement? The elevation data suggests so.
To the left, according to the elevation points, the living room on the ground floor would be right at the slope—is that correct?
Also, the poor dimensioning of the ground floor / upper floor makes it very difficult to understand how these levels relate to each other. It looks like the terrace, measuring at least 4 x 4 meters (13 x 13 feet), is covered by the upper floor.
A house is not just three separate levels, but a clever combination of these three levels adapted to the plot.
A full basement is still planned. It’s going to be a huge house. In my opinion, the steep slope and other factors haven’t been taken into account at all.
benediktr schrieb:
The plot has been leveled
Is this the result?
Unfortunately, there are only two measurements and no indication of the house’s position on the plan... and where is the garage supposed to go? In the basement? The elevation data suggests so.
To the left, according to the elevation points, the living room on the ground floor would be right at the slope—is that correct?
Also, the poor dimensioning of the ground floor / upper floor makes it very difficult to understand how these levels relate to each other. It looks like the terrace, measuring at least 4 x 4 meters (13 x 13 feet), is covered by the upper floor.
A house is not just three separate levels, but a clever combination of these three levels adapted to the plot.
kbt09 schrieb:
The pantry doesn't really need to be that large here; it's more of a storage space for mops, vacuum cleaners, and other items.I would rather call that a broom closet.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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benediktr4 Oct 2019 16:58ypg schrieb:
I wouldn’t mention it if I saw a gap there. And this “small gap” appears when a layperson doesn’t pay attention.
Anyway: it’s a mistake to present this to the architect. I’d either show you the door or let you walk right in and take the money. Good luck with that Maybe you’re right that this wasn’t properly considered from a structural point of view. But I don’t think either you or I can really judge that here, and that’s exactly why you hire an architect—to tell you if something doesn’t make sense. By the way, I share your opinion that you should not go to the architect just to say no, but rather to explain that we would like a design feature on the east facade to break up the dominance of the three-story structure. I didn’t mean to attack you in any way and I appreciate when someone tells me if something is nonsense. Sometimes you just get stuck on certain points.
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benediktr4 Oct 2019 17:09kbt09 schrieb:
The pantry doesn’t need to be that large here; it’s more like a storage space for mops, vacuum cleaners, and other items.
A full basement is also planned. This will be a huge house. In my opinion, the steep slope and other site conditions haven’t been considered at all.
Unfortunately, there are only two dimensions given, no placement of the house on the plan… and where is the garage supposed to go? In the basement? The elevation data suggest so.
To the left, according to the elevation points, the slope is right at the ground-floor living room – correct?
Also, the poor dimensioning of the ground floor and upper floor makes it very hard to understand how these levels align. It looks like the terrace, at least 4 x 4 m (13 x 13 feet), is covered by the upper floor.
A house isn’t just three separate levels, but the clever combination of these three levels, adapted to the land. I’m attaching a section of the site plan to make things clearer. There is a road along the east side, so the garage will be tucked under the house at the southeast corner.
Yes, and the earlier plan with elevations is the result. Some dimensions are still missing. As soon as the architect positions the house on the plot, I will upload the plan.
This plot is really hard to describe because there is a steep embankment on the east side with a plateau on top. On the west side, there is another embankment. Maybe I can take some photos at some point.
benediktr schrieb:
The plot is really hard to explain here because there is a slope on the east side with a plateau on top. On the west side, there is another slope. Maybe I can take some photos sometime. We are looking forward to it.
Do you already have an architect and an appointment with them?
Regarding your design
Include furniture to scale, specifically the pieces you already have or want
Especially on the upper floor, everything should start from zero
The 2-meter (6.5 feet) line is missing
The gallery is too small to have an impact. It only transmits all sounds
Rooms are very dark
Walk-in closet not desired, remove it
Bathtub is missing
It looks like an amateur design
Include furniture to scale, specifically the pieces you already have or want
Especially on the upper floor, everything should start from zero
The 2-meter (6.5 feet) line is missing
The gallery is too small to have an impact. It only transmits all sounds
Rooms are very dark
Walk-in closet not desired, remove it
Bathtub is missing
It looks like an amateur design
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