ᐅ Single-family house – flat roof – edge of forest location – 175 sqm
Created on: 16 Feb 2019 22:03
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benediktr
After being a silent reader in this forum for a long time, I would now like to share my thoughts and ideas with you. I hope to receive some suggestions for improvement and constructive feedback.
Unfortunately, I cannot provide a site plan at the moment. Therefore, here is a screenshot of the property. I have roughly traced it on the ground floor plan. The exact orientation definitely needs further planning. It is plot number 51.
Below, I try to outline the essentials in the questionnaire.
Development plan/restrictions
Section 34 of the Building Code
Plot size
580 sqm (6,243 sq ft)
Slope
No direct slope; terrain descends about 3 m (10 ft) from north to south and roughly 3 m (10 ft) from west to east; retaining wall to the south present
Building setbacks
North/East/South – 3 m (10 ft), West – 6 m (20 ft)
Number of parking spaces
1-2
Number of floors
2 full stories plus basement
Roof type
Flat roof
Architectural style
Modern
Orientation
Southwest
Maximum heights/limits
-
Other specifications
Owners’ requirements
Room layout as shown in the plan; spacious living-dining-kitchen area
Style, roof type, building type
Flat roof
Number of occupants, ages
Currently 2 people, 28 and 26 years old; planning for 1-2 children
Room requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
GF: living, dining, kitchen, utility room, WC
UF: bathroom, 2 children's rooms, bedroom plus walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office?
Family use
Guest overnight stays per year
Very seldom
Open or closed architecture
Open
Conservative or modern construction
Modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
Corner fireplace
Music/stereo wall
No
Additional wishes/particularities/daily routine, including reasons for preferences
- Staircase from ground floor to upper floor should start in the dining area and not be visible from the living room
- Living room preferably on the west side, as we both work very long hours
House design
Who did the planning?
Do-it-yourself, using various floor plans as templates
What do you particularly like? Why?
Straight staircase, layout of living, dining, and kitchen areas, corner fireplace
What do you not like? Why?
I am unsure if the rooms upstairs might be a bit too narrow due to the straight staircase. This could be improved with a landing staircase, but that is just a minor point to accept.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
450,000
Preferred heating technology:
Gas condensing boiler, possibly with a water jacket in the fireplace
If you have to give up something, what details/features
- can you forgo? Partition separating the WC in the bathroom
- cannot you do without? Walk-in closet
Why did the design become what it is now?
Room orientation on the plot guided the design based on our wishes. View to the west, looking over forest and fields. Access from the north to avoid an outdoor staircase.
What do you think are its strengths or weaknesses?
We would prefer to avoid floor-to-ceiling windows on the south side, as the neighbor’s front door is there, which is not ideal for brightness. Large window fronts on the west side due to the view, as mentioned. A window in the walk-in closet could still be planned.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Do you think the upper floor rooms might feel "narrow and elongated"? Budget?





Unfortunately, I cannot provide a site plan at the moment. Therefore, here is a screenshot of the property. I have roughly traced it on the ground floor plan. The exact orientation definitely needs further planning. It is plot number 51.
Below, I try to outline the essentials in the questionnaire.
Development plan/restrictions
Section 34 of the Building Code
Plot size
580 sqm (6,243 sq ft)
Slope
No direct slope; terrain descends about 3 m (10 ft) from north to south and roughly 3 m (10 ft) from west to east; retaining wall to the south present
Building setbacks
North/East/South – 3 m (10 ft), West – 6 m (20 ft)
Number of parking spaces
1-2
Number of floors
2 full stories plus basement
Roof type
Flat roof
Architectural style
Modern
Orientation
Southwest
Maximum heights/limits
-
Other specifications
Owners’ requirements
Room layout as shown in the plan; spacious living-dining-kitchen area
Style, roof type, building type
Flat roof
Number of occupants, ages
Currently 2 people, 28 and 26 years old; planning for 1-2 children
Room requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
GF: living, dining, kitchen, utility room, WC
UF: bathroom, 2 children's rooms, bedroom plus walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office?
Family use
Guest overnight stays per year
Very seldom
Open or closed architecture
Open
Conservative or modern construction
Modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
Corner fireplace
Music/stereo wall
No
Additional wishes/particularities/daily routine, including reasons for preferences
- Staircase from ground floor to upper floor should start in the dining area and not be visible from the living room
- Living room preferably on the west side, as we both work very long hours
House design
Who did the planning?
Do-it-yourself, using various floor plans as templates
What do you particularly like? Why?
Straight staircase, layout of living, dining, and kitchen areas, corner fireplace
What do you not like? Why?
I am unsure if the rooms upstairs might be a bit too narrow due to the straight staircase. This could be improved with a landing staircase, but that is just a minor point to accept.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
450,000
Preferred heating technology:
Gas condensing boiler, possibly with a water jacket in the fireplace
If you have to give up something, what details/features
- can you forgo? Partition separating the WC in the bathroom
- cannot you do without? Walk-in closet
Why did the design become what it is now?
Room orientation on the plot guided the design based on our wishes. View to the west, looking over forest and fields. Access from the north to avoid an outdoor staircase.
What do you think are its strengths or weaknesses?
We would prefer to avoid floor-to-ceiling windows on the south side, as the neighbor’s front door is there, which is not ideal for brightness. Large window fronts on the west side due to the view, as mentioned. A window in the walk-in closet could still be planned.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Do you think the upper floor rooms might feel "narrow and elongated"? Budget?
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benediktr4 Oct 2019 20:25haydee schrieb:
Regarding your design
Include furniture to scale, using your existing or desired pieces
Especially on the upper floor, everything should start at zero
The 2-meter (6.5 feet) height line is missing
Gallery is too small to make an impact. It just transmits all sounds
Rooms are very dark
Walk-in closet is not wanted, remove it
Bathtub is missing
Feels like an amateur design I don’t understand your comments.
- 2-meter (6.5 feet) line: This indicates a shed roof – the height adjustment will be specified by the architect. However, nothing will be below 2 m (6.5 feet).
- You can call it a gallery, but also a hallway
- I don’t see how the rooms are very dark. Except for the bedroom, every room has two windows. The corner window in the bathroom still needs to be reconsidered
- The walk-in closet is actually highly desired
- The bathtub is not missing
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benediktr4 Oct 2019 20:26kaho674 schrieb:
We’re following your progress with interest.
Is there already an architect and an appointment with them?There is an architect. We’ve already had an appointment. After a brief conversation, it was clear to both of us that the partnership works.
benediktr schrieb:
I don’t understand your statement.
- 2 meter (6.5 feet) line: results in a mono-pitched roof -> the height setting is specified by the architect. However, nothing will be below 2 m (6.5 feet).
- You can call it a gallery, but also a corridor.
- I don’t understand the claim that the rooms are very dark. Except for the bedroom, every room has two windows. The corner window in the bathroom is still under review.
- Walk-in closet is even a major request.
- The bathtub is not missing. Uh, yes, this doesn’t belong here either.
I don’t know why the post ended up in your thread.
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benediktr31 Mar 2020 20:02We have made significant progress by now. The building permit/planning permission application has been submitted, the structural engineering is complete, and the trades like shell construction, roof, and windows are finalized. Essentially, our basic concept has been implemented almost without gaps. Below are the plans. Sorry for the somewhat poor layer thickness—I have been experimenting with the setup myself and had issues with the layers and various plot styles...





In the basement, we are still uncertain whether to divide the workshop into two rooms, which would mean a second side entrance door is required (with T30 fire rating, thermal insulation, etc.).
On the ground floor, we are not yet decided on how to design the entrance area with the wardrobe. Here we have flexibility thanks to all the 11.5 cm (4.5 in) walls being drywall and done as a DIY job. The 24 cm (9.5 in) wall between the pantry and hallway will be built as exposed concrete.
On the upper floor, all 11.5 cm (4.5 in) walls are non-load-bearing and can be altered once the children have moved out. The north façade, of course, is somewhat unusual due to the few windows, but interior furniture arrangement and energy efficiency considerations were our priority here.
Daylight in the upstairs bathroom’s WC might be somewhat limited, but we can live with that. The wall at the shower will be only half-height drywall, with the upper half consisting of a glass panel to allow light into the shower.
In the basement, we are still uncertain whether to divide the workshop into two rooms, which would mean a second side entrance door is required (with T30 fire rating, thermal insulation, etc.).
On the ground floor, we are not yet decided on how to design the entrance area with the wardrobe. Here we have flexibility thanks to all the 11.5 cm (4.5 in) walls being drywall and done as a DIY job. The 24 cm (9.5 in) wall between the pantry and hallway will be built as exposed concrete.
On the upper floor, all 11.5 cm (4.5 in) walls are non-load-bearing and can be altered once the children have moved out. The north façade, of course, is somewhat unusual due to the few windows, but interior furniture arrangement and energy efficiency considerations were our priority here.
Daylight in the upstairs bathroom’s WC might be somewhat limited, but we can live with that. The wall at the shower will be only half-height drywall, with the upper half consisting of a glass panel to allow light into the shower.
Hello
I really like the layout and floor plan.
I personally prefer having the building open up with the roof and windows facing south, but there are certainly multiple valid approaches.
What type of roofing is planned?
With the glass wall for the shower, I don’t think it will get too dark. During the summer months, the morning sun should shine in nicely there as well.
Olli
I really like the layout and floor plan.
I personally prefer having the building open up with the roof and windows facing south, but there are certainly multiple valid approaches.
What type of roofing is planned?
With the glass wall for the shower, I don’t think it will get too dark. During the summer months, the morning sun should shine in nicely there as well.
Olli
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