ᐅ Revised Floor Plan for Attic Conversion

Created on: 10 Dec 2018 17:38
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Flasher
Hello dear house building enthusiasts,

I would like to convert the attic (2nd floor) of an older building (built in 1974). When the house was constructed in the 1970s, the builder already planned a floor layout for the attic, knowing that it would be converted a few years after completion.

Unfortunately, life got in the way and it was never converted. For the past 45 years, it has been used as a “luxury storage attic.” As you can see from the two floor plans, there is a balcony, several skylights, and also regular windows. I have attached the current state (Ist-Stand_2018.jpg). As you can see, no walls have been built yet.

I reconstructed the originally planned layout (see attachment “Ursprünglicher_Grundriss.jpg”) from the old documents and redrawn it. Unfortunately, I am unsatisfied with this layout for the following reasons:
  • The kitchen was also meant to serve as a dining area (typical open kitchen). Due to the kitchen’s position under the sloped roof, it is undersized. It was intended to place a table for 3 people in the kitchen.
  • A child’s room can only be accessed via the common staircase, not through the apartment itself. That is a no-go for me.
  • I would have liked a combined living and dining area.

I have already put a lot of thought into this but haven’t found a satisfactory solution. I have attached one of my drafts (Grundriss_Neuentwurf.jpg). In this version, I like the placement of the kitchen, dining area, and bathroom very much, but I have the following issues:
  • I can’t find a satisfactory way to place the sofa.
  • I would have liked to use the entire width of the balcony for the living room. Now, I placed a bedroom in half of the balcony space and would even have to remove the door-window combination to the balcony.

In general, I have a question:
The apartment measures 107 m² (1150 sq ft) calculated according to living space regulations. Is it common for a size like this to accommodate 2 children’s bedrooms plus 1 master bedroom, or is it more usual nowadays to have 1 child’s bedroom and 1 master bedroom?

Since the apartment is not intended for me, I have no personal preferences.

Thank you in advance for any help and ideas!

Best regards,
Flasher
kaho67413 Dec 2018 11:29
Climbee schrieb:
In my opinion, the small adjoining room in Kaho’s design is practically unusable unless you are at most 120cm (47 inches) tall or crawl in on your knees.

I don’t quite agree. I think it could work.

Floor plan of a guest and work room with desk, chair, cabinets, and door.


The idea was to make the best use of the sloped ceilings. If you box everything in at 2m (6 ft 7 in), you lose a lot of space and the windows, which isn’t acceptable. The slopes aren’t really a problem—that’s just how it is in an attic apartment.
Climbee13 Dec 2018 11:32
I don’t want to dig out to a depth of 2 meters (6.6 feet), but at least enough to be able to access the wall without having to crawl on your stomach, so probably up to just below the roof windows (DFFs).
Climbee13 Dec 2018 11:50
And even then, the space you’ve drawn will be completely under the sloping ceiling. That would feel too cramped for me. And I’m only 168cm (5 ft 6 in) tall – how do you think someone 190cm (6 ft 3 in) or taller would feel in there???
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Kiki_
13 Dec 2018 12:17
@kaho674
I imagined the kitchen layout roughly like this.
The kitchen cabinets are about 90cm (35 inches) high, and the partition wall is 100cm (39 inches). My focus is less on the countertop space (which is only practically usable under the roof window, maybe a second one next to it?), and more on the additional storage you gain since there are no wall cabinets.

In the bathroom, the shower is 1m (39 inches) wide, with about 80cm (31 inches) of that being over 2m (79 inches) high.
Okay, the toilet could be shifted slightly upward toward the window so that even someone 2m (79 inches) tall wouldn’t hit their head.

The bathtub entrance is really awkward, you’re right.
So either skip the bathtub altogether or enlarge the roof window above it/add a dormer to get some headroom. Otherwise, you mostly lie down in the bathtub or don’t use it and let it collect dust (like I do).

Sketch of a room with sloping ceiling; drawers on the left, table with items on the right.
kaho67413 Dec 2018 12:29
I really like the kitchen idea. But running into the sloped ceiling, I’m quite skeptical about that. I once had that in an apartment, without any cabinets underneath, and kept bumping my head all the time. The window also gets in the way pretty quickly. Maybe it would be better to extend the wall where the fridge is a bit further into the living room? Five 60cm (24 inch) cabinets plus a large kitchen island should be enough for the apartment. The cabinet by the dining area is also still there.
kaho67413 Dec 2018 12:38
Climbee schrieb:
I don't want the boxed ceiling to go all the way down to 2 meters (6 ft 7 in), but at least so that you can reach the wall without having to crawl on your stomach, probably up to just below the roof windows.
The boxed ceiling at 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) = near the bottom edge of the window is already included everywhere.