ᐅ Door opening inward or outward? What is the standard?

Created on: 21 Mar 2018 15:33
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Reyemedlo
Hello everyone,

Attached is a drawing of our guest bathroom. The wall-mounted installation has unfortunately become almost 21 cm (8 inches) deep due to a ventilation pipe behind it. Because of this, we are now unsure whether the door should open inward or outward.

We will only install a hand washbasin with a depth of 36 cm (14 inches). With this, the door would just be able to open inward without hitting it.

If the door opens outward, it just fits past the front door...

So, which is the lesser problem, or what would be more practical?

Aesthetically, I would actually prefer the door to open inward...

Thank you in advance for all your opinions and tips....

WC EG: Grundriss und Seitenansicht; Toilette, Waschbecken und Möbel


Architektur-Grundriss eines Innenraums mit Türen, WC, Raffstore und Maßangaben
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zizzi
7 Apr 2018 12:10
But if a person is unconscious in front of the door and other body parts, for example feet, are against the opposite wall, the door cannot be opened at all.
This concerns smaller rooms, such as a guest toilet.
There is always some way to justify anything; some people are even very good at it.
Ultimately, it is a personal matter what one considers important, which may be relatively unimportant to another. Both options have advantages and disadvantages; nowadays, both are used depending on what individuals consider important.
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ruppsn
7 Apr 2018 12:32
zizzi schrieb:

It’s really a personal matter; what I consider important might be irrelevant to someone else. Both options have their disadvantages and advantages, and nowadays both are done depending on what the person considers important.
Exactly, it’s a personal risk and preference assessment. My thought regarding the argument about “an unconscious person lying in front of the door and emergency responders can’t get inside”: if the emergency service is already there, they won’t be stopped by a regular interior door. If, as you described, it takes 1.5 hours (1.5 hours) to reach the person in an emergency (!), I’d rather consider that something went wrong elsewhere. Seriously, wasting 1.5 hours (1.5 hours) to climb in through a window—on the upper floor? You can break down the door by kicking it in, assuming sufficient force. Door frames are not made of concrete or steel, just glued wood. If you can’t get in that way, I’d call the fire department—they’ll open the door with their tools, or if necessary, go through the wall. But trying to climb the facade for 1.5 hours (1.5 hours)… I don’t know.

It gets interesting if it’s “just” a non-life-threatening assistance situation where you don’t need an ambulance or similar. Would you want to damage the door then? So maybe some kind of construction could help.

Another thought that crossed my mind: if someone is lying partially or fully in front of the door and unconscious, why can’t you get in? Yes, it’s more difficult, but the person isn’t bracing against it or fixed like concrete. If you push the door open with some force, you’ll just push the person backward. Definitely not comfortable for them, but they’re unconscious and won’t notice. From what I see, the body would be pushed back, and there should still be about 40cm (16 inches) of clearance.

But as you said, everyone has to weigh the risks for themselves. It’s not about right or wrong, but rather how someone would do it. If you then explain your reasons for having the door open inward and personally don’t see the outward opening as mandatory, you should also be able to accept if someone prefers the door to open outward. My two cents.
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ypg
7 Apr 2018 15:01
We have an axe in the house...
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zizzi
7 Apr 2018 20:33
Whether it takes 1.5 hours or 20 minutes, breaking down the door with an axe or crawling in through the window, in an emergency every minute counts—5 minutes can be crucial. Depending on the severity of the injury, one may either not survive or become dependent on care for life. (I hope no one ever has to experience this.)

Regards
Reza
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kbt09
7 Apr 2018 21:09


You really have to take a close look at this. Elves... yes, maybe they feel comfortable in the bathroom and can manage opening the door. But not everyone has an elf figure, and then it becomes quite tricky to get out of the room. You have to be in exactly the right position to even be able to open the door from the inside. And if someone actually collapses behind that door, you can’t just easily break it down with an axe, since you don’t know how the person got stuck in the space behind the door. They might be caught halfway up.

For me, there would be no debate: the door should open outward. But, unlike this version:


with left-hand hinges, so you enter the open hallway and can also exit from there.

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I myself only have a fairly small bathroom... and the best solution was to have the door open outward.
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Nordlys
7 Apr 2018 22:52
This guest toilet is roughly the same as ours; our door, as shown in the plan, swings inward against the wall, is also 77 cm (30 inches) wide, and I’m definitely not a fairy, and this is absolutely no problem. Really none at all. Karsten ö