ᐅ Garden Wall 105 m² up to 2.5 m High as a Boundary – Which System to Use?
Created on: 1 Oct 2017 14:32
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odw-bauen1 Oct 2017 14:32Hello everyone,
The title already describes my issue. Our plot needs a perimeter wall along a length of 75m (82 yards) to compensate for the slope of the land. On average, the height is around 1.2 to 1.4m (4 to 4.5 feet), with a maximum of 2.5m (8 feet) at the highest point. Terracing could be an option here to reduce the height of each individual wall.
Since the garden isn’t very large and I don’t want to lose much space due to a slope, the only solution is ultimately a wall all around. The question is: what should it be made of?
All the wall systems I found from brands like Weserwaben, EHL, Diephaus, or Kreher are concrete hollow blocks that are quite limited in maximum allowable height. Unfortunately, they are also expensive. I would prefer the opposite. I’m not willing to spend €20,000 just for the bare blocks.
With simple concrete formwork blocks and proper reinforcement, I should be able to achieve the desired height. The price for just the blocks would be about €2,500, which is a significant difference.
Does anyone have ideas, experiences, or suggestions on how to implement this? It should be affordable, durable, and visually reasonably attractive.
Thanks for your help!
The title already describes my issue. Our plot needs a perimeter wall along a length of 75m (82 yards) to compensate for the slope of the land. On average, the height is around 1.2 to 1.4m (4 to 4.5 feet), with a maximum of 2.5m (8 feet) at the highest point. Terracing could be an option here to reduce the height of each individual wall.
Since the garden isn’t very large and I don’t want to lose much space due to a slope, the only solution is ultimately a wall all around. The question is: what should it be made of?
All the wall systems I found from brands like Weserwaben, EHL, Diephaus, or Kreher are concrete hollow blocks that are quite limited in maximum allowable height. Unfortunately, they are also expensive. I would prefer the opposite. I’m not willing to spend €20,000 just for the bare blocks.
With simple concrete formwork blocks and proper reinforcement, I should be able to achieve the desired height. The price for just the blocks would be about €2,500, which is a significant difference.
Does anyone have ideas, experiences, or suggestions on how to implement this? It should be affordable, durable, and visually reasonably attractive.
Thanks for your help!
First of all, enclosing a mound is not the same as a boundary fence – a boundary fence "secures" the ownership border of a property. Secondly, I have doubts as to whether the zoning plan allows such significant terrain modification. And thirdly, zoning plans also include specifications regarding materials, which limit the range of options. What is on the other side of the wall: a neighbor, the street, or the enemy?
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odw-bauen1 Oct 2017 16:28Thank you for the detailed explanation of the terms. If I feel inspired, I might update the first post later. But I think it's clear enough what I need.
Rumor has it that there are areas without any zoning plan / building regulations. If I’m not completely mistaken, I live in one of those... so the materials and appearance really don’t matter. In the neighborhood, everything is a mix of different styles.
Last but not least, the somewhat critical 2.50m (8 ft 2 in) height is not an issue under either zoning plans or building codes, since it faces the neighbor and we have an agreement.
So, if anyone has a practical tip after the nitpicking about terminology and legality hopefully comes to an end, I would really appreciate it.
Thank you!
Rumor has it that there are areas without any zoning plan / building regulations. If I’m not completely mistaken, I live in one of those... so the materials and appearance really don’t matter. In the neighborhood, everything is a mix of different styles.
Last but not least, the somewhat critical 2.50m (8 ft 2 in) height is not an issue under either zoning plans or building codes, since it faces the neighbor and we have an agreement.
So, if anyone has a practical tip after the nitpicking about terminology and legality hopefully comes to an end, I would really appreciate it.
Thank you!
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Bau-Schmidt1 Oct 2017 16:34Fence heights over 1.8 meters (6 feet) require a building permit / planning permission.
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HilfeHilfe1 Oct 2017 19:55We built a 30-meter (98 feet) long wall ourselves at the lowest point, which is 2.20 meters (7 feet 3 inches) high, using hollow concrete blocks.
I was the laborer, and my friend was the brains. We mixed the mortar, reinforcement steel, and concrete ourselves. Since it was just the two of us, it cost us 3,000 € in total, including 800 € for my friend’s work, all done in three days.
You can’t lift L-shaped stones by muscle power beyond a certain height. Having 75 linear meters done by a landscaping contractor costs significantly more—you’re more likely looking at around 20,000 €.
I was the laborer, and my friend was the brains. We mixed the mortar, reinforcement steel, and concrete ourselves. Since it was just the two of us, it cost us 3,000 € in total, including 800 € for my friend’s work, all done in three days.
You can’t lift L-shaped stones by muscle power beyond a certain height. Having 75 linear meters done by a landscaping contractor costs significantly more—you’re more likely looking at around 20,000 €.
odw-bauen schrieb:
But I think you understand what I need anyway Fences include hedges, fences, or even walls — but not those with earth fill, certainly not at such a height.
odw-bauen schrieb:
According to rumors, there are areas without a development plan. If I’m not completely mistaken, I live in one of those... so the material and appearance really don’t matter. Everything in the neighborhood is quite mixed Without a development plan, Section 34 and the respective state building codes apply. Additionally, design statutes or similar regulations may apply to entire municipalities, thus covering development plan or Section 34 areas across boundaries.
odw-bauen schrieb:
because it is on the neighbor’s side and we agree.... Also, building encumbrances that the neighbor agrees to can exceed an allowed limit (at least those not requiring approval), but neighborly agreement does not override this.
No one here wants to spoil your enjoyment, but building law is simply not made for Pippi Longstocking.
HilfeHilfe schrieb:
L-shaped blocks can’t be lifted by muscle power beyond a certain height. L-blocks and hollow blocks serve different purposes. The common hope that an overdose of steel will fix everything helps very little in this regard.
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