Hello everyone,
After searching for several years, we finally managed to secure a nice building plot! Soon we can get started. I am currently working on the floor plans so that our architect can submit the building permit / planning permission application.
I have a few questions and hope someone might have some experience to help me out
- We would like to install a small bathroom in the basement (habitable basement). Our home builder advised against it due to high additional costs caused by a lifting station and a backflow valve. For the washing machine and two sinks (kitchen area and laundry room), a small floor-level lifting unit would apparently be sufficient, but not for a toilet and shower. However, our basement specialist (whom we chose separately) believes that a small unit would also work in this case. Can anyone share some insight on this?
- Then, I need to plan an installation shaft on the ground floor, said our architect. Now I wonder, does the heating system (air heat pump with ventilation) have to be located in the basement directly under this shaft, or can it be placed somewhere else entirely?
- And one more thing, quite different Our plot is surrounded by other houses on three sides, and the street runs along the fourth side. The building envelope and the house are situated quite far (about 6-7 meters (20-23 feet)) from the street. We can easily install a 1.80 m (6 feet) high privacy fence on the three sides adjoining neighbors, as long as we keep a certain distance from the property boundary. But does anyone know how it works on the street side, well outside the building envelope? Does the building envelope have any influence on fences at all?
Kind regards
After searching for several years, we finally managed to secure a nice building plot! Soon we can get started. I am currently working on the floor plans so that our architect can submit the building permit / planning permission application.
I have a few questions and hope someone might have some experience to help me out
- We would like to install a small bathroom in the basement (habitable basement). Our home builder advised against it due to high additional costs caused by a lifting station and a backflow valve. For the washing machine and two sinks (kitchen area and laundry room), a small floor-level lifting unit would apparently be sufficient, but not for a toilet and shower. However, our basement specialist (whom we chose separately) believes that a small unit would also work in this case. Can anyone share some insight on this?
- Then, I need to plan an installation shaft on the ground floor, said our architect. Now I wonder, does the heating system (air heat pump with ventilation) have to be located in the basement directly under this shaft, or can it be placed somewhere else entirely?
- And one more thing, quite different Our plot is surrounded by other houses on three sides, and the street runs along the fourth side. The building envelope and the house are situated quite far (about 6-7 meters (20-23 feet)) from the street. We can easily install a 1.80 m (6 feet) high privacy fence on the three sides adjoining neighbors, as long as we keep a certain distance from the property boundary. But does anyone know how it works on the street side, well outside the building envelope? Does the building envelope have any influence on fences at all?
Kind regards
Schnuckline schrieb:
The imaginary child is supposed to play in the fenced garden no idea what to do with the front yard, it wasn’t really planned as a walkable area so far. Maybe you have some decorative ideas
Oh, the file won’t upload for some reason. So it’s the Celebration 125 from Bien-Zenker.The imaginary child will definitely misbehave multiple times as soon as it becomes real :-0
Assuming it’s just a quiet residential street, I wouldn’t underestimate the south side. Maybe a breakfast terrace or something like that?
Am I right in understanding that the Celebration 125 here is not just an inspiration, but the actual house to be built? – then the comment about the shaft starts to make sense: You have different plans for the utility/storage room from the original floor plan and now need to figure out what this means for pipes and wiring if it’s moved to the basement (?)
With that name, I found several models from V1 to V9, where V6 nicely shows how to nicely avoid the projecting corner. But the entrance is always on the gable side there (?).
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Schnuckline31 Mar 2017 10:26@11antKids! Unpredictable. Sitting there? Where there’s no privacy? You know how I am by now—it’s unthinkable. I was thinking more of something that looks nice as a front garden but isn’t really used for hanging out. I guess the west terrace will get enough sun from the south when the sun is high. It’s basically the south side, just further to the left. I think when the time comes, I’ll start a new thread and get your tips. Right now, the front garden should be my least concern.
The Celebration 125 is exactly the house. Just as a shell—meaning the external dimensions. The windows shown are included but can be rearranged. The same goes for the door. And that’s exactly what we did. We completely changed the interior layout, moved the windows, and shifted the front door to the right.
The issue with the shaft is now resolved. It would be good if the system is near the shaft, but it’s not a must. It might sound a bit odd to others, but I’m a bit particular. I design my floor plans entirely myself and then have the architect check feasibility and do the official drawings. She’s the expert, but no one who will never live in the house can plan it as thoughtfully, detailed, and lovingly as I can. To help me, I used furniture with the exact dimensions from our current place, so I can better visualize the space. That’s why I needed some background knowledge to plan the basement—not because I have to, but because I want to.
The house versions all show the same house (I find this clearly recognizable by the double door and the two floor-to-ceiling windows) but in different variations. Different knee wall heights and one extra feature in each version. Our knee wall will look like in versions 6, 7, 8, and 9—that is 1.60m (5 feet 3 inches). So far, we haven’t planned any extras (no corner windows, balconies, or bay windows). It’s basically as bare as version 1. But we are currently considering adding a dormer (I think it’s called differently) like in version 2 on the south side. Both kids’ rooms would benefit from that. I think it looks nice, but that alone costs around 15,000 to 20,000. We still need to negotiate and see if there’s any budget left for it.
The Celebration 125 is exactly the house. Just as a shell—meaning the external dimensions. The windows shown are included but can be rearranged. The same goes for the door. And that’s exactly what we did. We completely changed the interior layout, moved the windows, and shifted the front door to the right.
The issue with the shaft is now resolved. It would be good if the system is near the shaft, but it’s not a must. It might sound a bit odd to others, but I’m a bit particular. I design my floor plans entirely myself and then have the architect check feasibility and do the official drawings. She’s the expert, but no one who will never live in the house can plan it as thoughtfully, detailed, and lovingly as I can. To help me, I used furniture with the exact dimensions from our current place, so I can better visualize the space. That’s why I needed some background knowledge to plan the basement—not because I have to, but because I want to.
The house versions all show the same house (I find this clearly recognizable by the double door and the two floor-to-ceiling windows) but in different variations. Different knee wall heights and one extra feature in each version. Our knee wall will look like in versions 6, 7, 8, and 9—that is 1.60m (5 feet 3 inches). So far, we haven’t planned any extras (no corner windows, balconies, or bay windows). It’s basically as bare as version 1. But we are currently considering adding a dormer (I think it’s called differently) like in version 2 on the south side. Both kids’ rooms would benefit from that. I think it looks nice, but that alone costs around 15,000 to 20,000. We still need to negotiate and see if there’s any budget left for it.
Hehe, THAT
I’ll have to remember that first
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Schnuckline schrieb:
I think the west terrace will get enough sunlight from the south when the sun is high. It’s basically the south side, just further to the left.
I’ll have to remember that first
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And now to the actual answer:
What belongs together should be planned together.
But what was kept is more than just the 8.80 meters squared – so it’s this model, but with rearranged windows?
Then I assume the entrance is where the WC is in the “original,” the WC is then where the heating was, the stairs start “inside the cistern” and the exit is almost where it usually is, just “from the right”?
Try it again, at least with the elevations (jpg/png works best).
But this element, even with a high knee wall, significantly helps to fully utilize the space. Under a roof window on the south side, you’d have a greenhouse effect.
This feature (with a flat roof, as shown in version 4) is called a "dormer with a straight roof," or (with a gable roof, as shown in version 2) a "gable dormer." Both have a front that continues straight up the façade. If it is set back into the roof – usually in line with the inner knee wall – it is called a "dormer" (compare with version 3).
Good job, you just gave Uncle 11ant a great opportunity to get technical with terminology and named the knee wall “correctly” (that deserves a gold star). Incidentally, it would be called a drempel if it were located on the inside – watch out, don’t throw me the keyword “pantry” now, or horror will ensue!
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Schnuckline schrieb:
At the moment, the front garden should be my least problem.
What belongs together should be planned together.
Schnuckline schrieb:
The Celebration 125 is exactly the house. Just the shell, meaning the exterior dimensions. The windows shown are included but can be repositioned. Same with the door. And that’s what we did. We completely changed the interior floor plan, moved the windows, and placed the entrance door on the right.
But what was kept is more than just the 8.80 meters squared – so it’s this model, but with rearranged windows?
Then I assume the entrance is where the WC is in the “original,” the WC is then where the heating was, the stairs start “inside the cistern” and the exit is almost where it usually is, just “from the right”?
Try it again, at least with the elevations (jpg/png works best).
Schnuckline schrieb:
So far, we have not planned any extras (so no corner windows, balconies, or bay windows). It’s as bare as in version 1. But we are currently thinking about adding some kind of dormer (I believe it’s called differently) on the south side. Both children’s rooms would benefit from that. I also think it looks nice, but this thing alone costs about 15-20k.
But this element, even with a high knee wall, significantly helps to fully utilize the space. Under a roof window on the south side, you’d have a greenhouse effect.
This feature (with a flat roof, as shown in version 4) is called a "dormer with a straight roof," or (with a gable roof, as shown in version 2) a "gable dormer." Both have a front that continues straight up the façade. If it is set back into the roof – usually in line with the inner knee wall – it is called a "dormer" (compare with version 3).
Good job, you just gave Uncle 11ant a great opportunity to get technical with terminology and named the knee wall “correctly” (that deserves a gold star). Incidentally, it would be called a drempel if it were located on the inside – watch out, don’t throw me the keyword “pantry” now, or horror will ensue!
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Schnuckline31 Mar 2017 16:23@11ant HAHA, in hindsight that does sound a bit strange.
No idea yet about the front yard. I need to get some inspiration first.
So the house stays 8.79 by 8.79 meters (29 by 29 feet). The entrance will be roughly where the original wall between the bathroom and the heating room is. Immediately to the right of the entrance is a small storage niche, and next to that the bathroom. Instead of the staircase shown, there will be a half-turn stair. The original study will be made a bit wider, extending to the horizontal center, and will be converted into a kitchen. The entire lower half of the house will then consist of a dining area (on the left) and a living area (on the right). Upstairs, the bathroom will be on the east side, the bedroom on the west side, and two children’s rooms on the south side. I’d like to share my floor plans once they are completely finished. Hopefully, I’ll be ready by this evening.
The elevations (the views of the house, right?) haven’t been done yet.
You’re making me even more interested in this annoying dormer. Do you happen to have 20,000 euros? We hadn’t planned any roof windows either. Each room will only have a floor-to-ceiling window on the west or east side. Thanks, thanks. That’s the word I was looking for—gable dormer. I won’t dare to use harsh words like pantry. When uncertain, I’ll just keep saying “thing.”
No idea yet about the front yard. I need to get some inspiration first.
So the house stays 8.79 by 8.79 meters (29 by 29 feet). The entrance will be roughly where the original wall between the bathroom and the heating room is. Immediately to the right of the entrance is a small storage niche, and next to that the bathroom. Instead of the staircase shown, there will be a half-turn stair. The original study will be made a bit wider, extending to the horizontal center, and will be converted into a kitchen. The entire lower half of the house will then consist of a dining area (on the left) and a living area (on the right). Upstairs, the bathroom will be on the east side, the bedroom on the west side, and two children’s rooms on the south side. I’d like to share my floor plans once they are completely finished. Hopefully, I’ll be ready by this evening.
The elevations (the views of the house, right?) haven’t been done yet.
You’re making me even more interested in this annoying dormer. Do you happen to have 20,000 euros? We hadn’t planned any roof windows either. Each room will only have a floor-to-ceiling window on the west or east side. Thanks, thanks. That’s the word I was looking for—gable dormer. I won’t dare to use harsh words like pantry. When uncertain, I’ll just keep saying “thing.”
Schnuckline schrieb:
So the house remains 8.79 by 8.79 meters (29 by 29 feet). [...] Instead of the staircase shown, there will be a half-turn staircase. The original study will become a bit wider, extending to the horizontal center, and will be transformed into a kitchen. So croquettes instead of fries, peas instead of beans, and Béarnaise instead of Hollandaise. The schnitzel and plate size stay the same. Changing the staircase layout as well as its design is quite a big operation. The anticipation for the floor plans is growing. I want a study that turns into a kitchen too.
Schnuckline schrieb:
I would like to share my floor plans once they are completely finished. Hopefully I’ll have them ready tonight.
The elevations (the views of the house, right?) are not done yet. Yes, really looked at every side of the house.
Schnuckline schrieb:
I wouldn’t dare to use harsh words like pantry. When in doubt, I’ll just keep saying “thing.” That’s good. Then I can explain when it’s actually called Dong.
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