Hello everyone,
After searching for several years, we finally managed to secure a nice building plot! Soon we can get started. I am currently working on the floor plans so that our architect can submit the building permit / planning permission application.
I have a few questions and hope someone might have some experience to help me out
- We would like to install a small bathroom in the basement (habitable basement). Our home builder advised against it due to high additional costs caused by a lifting station and a backflow valve. For the washing machine and two sinks (kitchen area and laundry room), a small floor-level lifting unit would apparently be sufficient, but not for a toilet and shower. However, our basement specialist (whom we chose separately) believes that a small unit would also work in this case. Can anyone share some insight on this?
- Then, I need to plan an installation shaft on the ground floor, said our architect. Now I wonder, does the heating system (air heat pump with ventilation) have to be located in the basement directly under this shaft, or can it be placed somewhere else entirely?
- And one more thing, quite different Our plot is surrounded by other houses on three sides, and the street runs along the fourth side. The building envelope and the house are situated quite far (about 6-7 meters (20-23 feet)) from the street. We can easily install a 1.80 m (6 feet) high privacy fence on the three sides adjoining neighbors, as long as we keep a certain distance from the property boundary. But does anyone know how it works on the street side, well outside the building envelope? Does the building envelope have any influence on fences at all?
Kind regards
After searching for several years, we finally managed to secure a nice building plot! Soon we can get started. I am currently working on the floor plans so that our architect can submit the building permit / planning permission application.
I have a few questions and hope someone might have some experience to help me out
- We would like to install a small bathroom in the basement (habitable basement). Our home builder advised against it due to high additional costs caused by a lifting station and a backflow valve. For the washing machine and two sinks (kitchen area and laundry room), a small floor-level lifting unit would apparently be sufficient, but not for a toilet and shower. However, our basement specialist (whom we chose separately) believes that a small unit would also work in this case. Can anyone share some insight on this?
- Then, I need to plan an installation shaft on the ground floor, said our architect. Now I wonder, does the heating system (air heat pump with ventilation) have to be located in the basement directly under this shaft, or can it be placed somewhere else entirely?
- And one more thing, quite different Our plot is surrounded by other houses on three sides, and the street runs along the fourth side. The building envelope and the house are situated quite far (about 6-7 meters (20-23 feet)) from the street. We can easily install a 1.80 m (6 feet) high privacy fence on the three sides adjoining neighbors, as long as we keep a certain distance from the property boundary. But does anyone know how it works on the street side, well outside the building envelope? Does the building envelope have any influence on fences at all?
Kind regards
Schnuckline schrieb:
@ypg: For us, it’s really important that the area is not visible. Our garden is more than just a patio. I want to grow vegetables there, set up a pool, and eventually let children play. It’s my private space, and I want to move freely without being stared at. Nobody wants to invite neighbors into their living room and then start waving at them first. The garden will be visible from the upper floors of the neighboring houses anyway, whether you build a 1.5m (5 feet) fence or a 3m (10 feet) tall barrier. However, the situation can also be reversed – there was a recent court ruling where neighbors tried to forbid a sauna user from walking naked to their garden shower because the garden was visible from the surrounding upper floors. The judge ruled that this must be tolerated, and if someone doesn’t like it, they should simply look away.
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Dirk Grafe
First of all, congratulations on the regulation allowing the fence (compared to other properties – yes, I consider the street as one) to be higher within its setback distance. When I said "absolute," I meant that fence heights usually apply regardless of where the fence is installed. A "dead" enclosure is a fence because, unlike a hedge, it does not continue to grow.
This regulation probably also allows the procedure mentioned here, to place a fence behind a hedge that can then be higher by the thickness of the hedge.
The building envelope affects this in the sense that within the building envelope, you could theoretically extend the lateral privacy screen of the terrace by law (although I have never seen anyone do this) up to the eaves height. However, within the setback distance from the property boundary (usually 2.5 or 3 meters (8 or 10 feet)), this is of course not possible.
Paved or sealed surfaces are accounted for differently under the floor area ratio and, depending on the type, must also comply with setback distances.
How you arrange your garden may also be specified in the development plan. However, you won’t find this in the drawn plan but rather in the "textual provisions." If the building authority and local council had too much time, these might include the botanical names of allowed hedge species and fence woods, as well as the grain sizes of gravel stones. Garden gnomes with mohawk hairstyles must be covered with a single-colored pointed cap.
A street-side building boundary at about 6–7 meters (20–23 feet) suggests that carports might be permitted there – these can also be enclosed for privacy.
But don’t overdo it: I meant it seriously that fence height regulations partly exist because an excessively high (solid) fence effectively brings your neighbors’ sunset forward. Most neighbors generally have different leisure activities than counting calories while having coffee and cake.
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I would also avoid doing laundry on the upper floor; a leaking washing machine causes less damage in the basement.
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This regulation probably also allows the procedure mentioned here, to place a fence behind a hedge that can then be higher by the thickness of the hedge.
The building envelope affects this in the sense that within the building envelope, you could theoretically extend the lateral privacy screen of the terrace by law (although I have never seen anyone do this) up to the eaves height. However, within the setback distance from the property boundary (usually 2.5 or 3 meters (8 or 10 feet)), this is of course not possible.
Paved or sealed surfaces are accounted for differently under the floor area ratio and, depending on the type, must also comply with setback distances.
How you arrange your garden may also be specified in the development plan. However, you won’t find this in the drawn plan but rather in the "textual provisions." If the building authority and local council had too much time, these might include the botanical names of allowed hedge species and fence woods, as well as the grain sizes of gravel stones. Garden gnomes with mohawk hairstyles must be covered with a single-colored pointed cap.
A street-side building boundary at about 6–7 meters (20–23 feet) suggests that carports might be permitted there – these can also be enclosed for privacy.
But don’t overdo it: I meant it seriously that fence height regulations partly exist because an excessively high (solid) fence effectively brings your neighbors’ sunset forward. Most neighbors generally have different leisure activities than counting calories while having coffee and cake.
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I would also avoid doing laundry on the upper floor; a leaking washing machine causes less damage in the basement.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Schnuckline30 Mar 2017 15:04@ypg: Usable was the wrong word to use. What I meant is that I don’t feel comfortable in my own garden when anyone can look in whenever they want. It’s like not feeling comfortable when everyone can look through your windows in the evening. Whether someone is actually standing there looking or not, you still prefer to keep the shutters down to feel comfortable.
Now I finally understand what you mean. The privacy fence is not intended as a boundary fence but really just as a privacy screen. I was imagining something like this (see attachment): for the boundary, a low wall, then about 30cm (12 inches) behind that a privacy fence (much more opaque than the one in the picture), and between them I would like to lay stones. Can anyone force me to plant something in the stones if nothing is specified in the building permit / planning permission?
@Dirk Grafe: That’s exactly why I’m trying to clarify things about the fence right now. I want to find the perfect position for the house on the plot. So far, it looks like this (see attachment). The ridge direction is clearly visible. To the north is an undevelopable garden area. To the east, there will also be a new build at roughly the same height. To the south are the street and sidewalk. On the opposite side of the street is another house opposite ours, and opposite the garden is another garden. To the west, we have a driveway and garage directly adjacent, as well as another house next to those. What do you think about this position? Do you perhaps have any better ideas?
Now I finally understand what you mean. The privacy fence is not intended as a boundary fence but really just as a privacy screen. I was imagining something like this (see attachment): for the boundary, a low wall, then about 30cm (12 inches) behind that a privacy fence (much more opaque than the one in the picture), and between them I would like to lay stones. Can anyone force me to plant something in the stones if nothing is specified in the building permit / planning permission?
@Dirk Grafe: That’s exactly why I’m trying to clarify things about the fence right now. I want to find the perfect position for the house on the plot. So far, it looks like this (see attachment). The ridge direction is clearly visible. To the north is an undevelopable garden area. To the east, there will also be a new build at roughly the same height. To the south are the street and sidewalk. On the opposite side of the street is another house opposite ours, and opposite the garden is another garden. To the west, we have a driveway and garage directly adjacent, as well as another house next to those. What do you think about this position? Do you perhaps have any better ideas?
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Schnuckline30 Mar 2017 15:14@11ant: Ah, thanks! You clearly know your stuff. I’m going to shamelessly take advantage of that now I’ve also seen regulations about landscaping in development plans for new residential areas. It’s terrible! Like you’re only allowed to choose from three types of trees, and they have to be planted in exactly that spot Fortunately, our development plan doesn’t mention anything like that anywhere.
I was aware that walkways, parking spaces, and roof overhangs are included in the site coverage ratio. Could you please take a look at the picture in the post above? Do you think those stones would count towards it as well?
And never underestimate grandparents from the Swabian region My partner spent a few hours sitting on a folding chair at the property to check the situation. Mostly elderly people live around there. Immediately, they all came out to discreetly sweep or trim hedges. Of course, he was watched as if he was from Mars. Within that hour, he unintentionally learned who built what where and when, and who lent their lawnmower to whom. That was when we realized: privacy screening, as tall as possible!
I was aware that walkways, parking spaces, and roof overhangs are included in the site coverage ratio. Could you please take a look at the picture in the post above? Do you think those stones would count towards it as well?
And never underestimate grandparents from the Swabian region My partner spent a few hours sitting on a folding chair at the property to check the situation. Mostly elderly people live around there. Immediately, they all came out to discreetly sweep or trim hedges. Of course, he was watched as if he was from Mars. Within that hour, he unintentionally learned who built what where and when, and who lent their lawnmower to whom. That was when we realized: privacy screening, as tall as possible!
I can’t say I’m an expert. Three gentlemen here have already chosen me as their favorite chatterbox.
I like your taste, although it looks... uh... let’s say: "not exactly cheap."
I also consider this solution feasible. For example, grass pavers usually count as 20% of the lot coverage.
Does the thick dark pink line indicate the route of the separated fence?
Some development plans only allow garden sheds at the back of the property. In that case, I would want to place the carport in the planned spot.
Are the suggested shutters part of the plan, and is the access to the terrace on the west side?
If the fence heads toward the corner of the house, the space there might become a footpath to go around the fence.
I don’t know how interesting Martians look. When I was young, it was "a contribution from Jupiter, the swarm of all women."
But of course, Swabians probably just wanted to have a quick look to see if the young man had once helped with the obligatory cleaning duty before he managed to register the house with the building authority.
I don’t see any "risk" for you personally; after all, the chorus ends with "and don’t look at the girls."
P.S.: If you don’t just happen to overhear who lent the lawn mower to whom, but receive this information directly, then you have arrived. Here’s to good neighborliness!
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I like your taste, although it looks... uh... let’s say: "not exactly cheap."
I also consider this solution feasible. For example, grass pavers usually count as 20% of the lot coverage.
Does the thick dark pink line indicate the route of the separated fence?
Some development plans only allow garden sheds at the back of the property. In that case, I would want to place the carport in the planned spot.
Are the suggested shutters part of the plan, and is the access to the terrace on the west side?
If the fence heads toward the corner of the house, the space there might become a footpath to go around the fence.
I don’t know how interesting Martians look. When I was young, it was "a contribution from Jupiter, the swarm of all women."
But of course, Swabians probably just wanted to have a quick look to see if the young man had once helped with the obligatory cleaning duty before he managed to register the house with the building authority.
I don’t see any "risk" for you personally; after all, the chorus ends with "and don’t look at the girls."
P.S.: If you don’t just happen to overhear who lent the lawn mower to whom, but receive this information directly, then you have arrived. Here’s to good neighborliness!
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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