ᐅ Windows, exterior roller shutters, external plaster/render
Created on: 21 Apr 2015 11:04
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Shadowblues
Hello everyone,
I’m a bit confused right now and need your help. Here is the situation:
The house was completed last year, including windows and so on, except for the exterior plaster. The interior finishing and move-in are planned for February. Now the exterior plaster is supposed to go on (actually it was scheduled for October, but the plasterer never had time).
I have electric external roller shutters painted in RAL color. These have 3mm (about 1/8 inch) metal sheets on both sides, then there is the inspection cover. As my plasterer has installed the plaster guides, I wouldn’t be able to access the roller shutter box anymore without chipping away the plaster. Of course, I stopped the work right away.
My plasterer says that according to standards, the window must be plastered with at least 5mm (about 1/5 inch) covering, and since the shutter tracks sit on it, they also need to be plastered with the same 5mm thickness. However, I don’t want to risk breaking the shutter tracks out of the plaster if there’s a problem, and the roller shutter box must remain accessible.
I have also found a reference stating that external roller shutters should only be installed after plastering. Unfortunately, I can’t find this clearly stated anywhere so that I can show it to the architect. Do you have any information on this?
My architect, once again, has no opinion ... *sigh*
Is there any way to fix this situation? Being without roller shutters for 8 weeks would be really bad—the kids need darkness to sleep. Or do the shutters need to come off? Or is there another solution?
Regards,
Roger
I’m a bit confused right now and need your help. Here is the situation:
The house was completed last year, including windows and so on, except for the exterior plaster. The interior finishing and move-in are planned for February. Now the exterior plaster is supposed to go on (actually it was scheduled for October, but the plasterer never had time).
I have electric external roller shutters painted in RAL color. These have 3mm (about 1/8 inch) metal sheets on both sides, then there is the inspection cover. As my plasterer has installed the plaster guides, I wouldn’t be able to access the roller shutter box anymore without chipping away the plaster. Of course, I stopped the work right away.
My plasterer says that according to standards, the window must be plastered with at least 5mm (about 1/5 inch) covering, and since the shutter tracks sit on it, they also need to be plastered with the same 5mm thickness. However, I don’t want to risk breaking the shutter tracks out of the plaster if there’s a problem, and the roller shutter box must remain accessible.
I have also found a reference stating that external roller shutters should only be installed after plastering. Unfortunately, I can’t find this clearly stated anywhere so that I can show it to the architect. Do you have any information on this?
My architect, once again, has no opinion ... *sigh*
Is there any way to fix this situation? Being without roller shutters for 8 weeks would be really bad—the kids need darkness to sleep. Or do the shutters need to come off? Or is there another solution?
Regards,
Roger
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Bauexperte21 Apr 2015 13:53Hello Roger,
Dirk gave the right advice: disassemble, clean, and then reinstall; anything else would be a botch. I also don’t think you’ll need to dismantle or remove that much. Otherwise, in the worst case, no box could be replaced easily.
Alternatively, integrating the roller shutter box into the facade might be the most cost-effective solution. Talk to your architect — even if you think you made the wrong choice, discussions still offer the best way to find solutions.
Best regards, Bauexperte
Shadowblues schrieb:
This is what’s called architect-supported cronyism.
Dirk gave the right advice: disassemble, clean, and then reinstall; anything else would be a botch. I also don’t think you’ll need to dismantle or remove that much. Otherwise, in the worst case, no box could be replaced easily.
Alternatively, integrating the roller shutter box into the facade might be the most cost-effective solution. Talk to your architect — even if you think you made the wrong choice, discussions still offer the best way to find solutions.
Best regards, Bauexperte
Since when has it been unusual to install roller shutters before the exterior plaster? That's completely normal, at least based on what is commonly seen here.
@TE: You should definitely have access to the roller shutter motor and/or the wiring! I strongly recommend clarifying this.
@TE: You should definitely have access to the roller shutter motor and/or the wiring! I strongly recommend clarifying this.
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Bauexperte21 Apr 2015 13:55milkie schrieb:
Since when has it been unusual to install roller shutters before the exterior plaster? That’s completely normal, at least based on what you usually see here.These are usually cassette roller shutters (window and shutter box form one unit); the boxes are recessed into the facade and cannot be seen from the outside.Regards, Bauexperte
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Shadowblues21 Apr 2015 14:03Hello everyone,
We intentionally chose these exterior roller shutters in a different color – I actually like how they look visually (just like my outdoor fireplace). Of course, nobody will understand that again.
You can definitely access the motor, but the cable is routed inside to a terminal box and clamped there. If I ever need to get in there, I’ll open it carefully with a cutter and close it up afterwards. Until the next repainting, one of the rooms might not look perfect. But doing this in every room of a new build? No way! Whether the cable can possibly be detached on the motor side, I will only find out after the warranty period – I won’t touch it before then.
Can you provide me with a reference to a guideline, recommendation, or standard that specifies or suggests the order of these steps?
Regards,
Roger
We intentionally chose these exterior roller shutters in a different color – I actually like how they look visually (just like my outdoor fireplace). Of course, nobody will understand that again.
You can definitely access the motor, but the cable is routed inside to a terminal box and clamped there. If I ever need to get in there, I’ll open it carefully with a cutter and close it up afterwards. Until the next repainting, one of the rooms might not look perfect. But doing this in every room of a new build? No way! Whether the cable can possibly be detached on the motor side, I will only find out after the warranty period – I won’t touch it before then.
Can you provide me with a reference to a guideline, recommendation, or standard that specifies or suggests the order of these steps?
Regards,
Roger
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Shadowblues22 Apr 2015 10:01Hello everyone,
here we go again. The architect says everything is agreed upon, the plasterer says the opposite and thinks the architect is crazy...
How can I find a building expert who can assess this?
Regards
Roger
here we go again. The architect says everything is agreed upon, the plasterer says the opposite and thinks the architect is crazy...
How can I find a building expert who can assess this?
Regards
Roger
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