Hello everyone!
The drywall installers will be finished soon, and after the tilers, we can focus on painting and flooring work. Accordingly, we’ve requested a quote. Unfortunately, it is well above our budget (over 16,000€). The quote includes covering and masking work, priming, filling and sanding, and paint fleece.
We now want to skip the paint fleece, as a perfectly smooth surface is not that important to us and the cost is quite high. But even without this item, we are still looking at over 10,000€. The filling and sanding work is also quite expensive. We could probably save those costs if we apply textured wallpaper (Raufasertapete) on the Q2 walls, right, or am I mistaken?
What other options are there? We have Q2 plaster. We know it’s not recommended to paint directly on this surface. However, our expectations for the finish are not very high. We are not fans of wallpaper, so eventually we just want to be able to paint on our own.
What exactly speaks against simply painting our Q2 walls? (Of course, we would sand and fill them beforehand.)
Thanks for your answers!
The drywall installers will be finished soon, and after the tilers, we can focus on painting and flooring work. Accordingly, we’ve requested a quote. Unfortunately, it is well above our budget (over 16,000€). The quote includes covering and masking work, priming, filling and sanding, and paint fleece.
We now want to skip the paint fleece, as a perfectly smooth surface is not that important to us and the cost is quite high. But even without this item, we are still looking at over 10,000€. The filling and sanding work is also quite expensive. We could probably save those costs if we apply textured wallpaper (Raufasertapete) on the Q2 walls, right, or am I mistaken?
What other options are there? We have Q2 plaster. We know it’s not recommended to paint directly on this surface. However, our expectations for the finish are not very high. We are not fans of wallpaper, so eventually we just want to be able to paint on our own.
What exactly speaks against simply painting our Q2 walls? (Of course, we would sand and fill them beforehand.)
Thanks for your answers!
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Ypsi aus NI10 Jun 2022 11:25Neubau2022 schrieb:
One month for the job? Are you sure? I’d rather expect a maximum of 2 weeks. With two painters, it would probably take just over a week. How long do you think it will take for us if the entire house is skim-coated, covered with painter’s fleece, and painted twice? Three months? 😎 How do you know that? Are you familiar with our house?
Just the gallery alone takes a week for all the work...
Sanding the transitions between ceiling and walls by hand, etc. Everyone can have different standards here. The same applies for the ceiling: you can either have just the joint skim-coated or the whole surface. We have two large west-facing windows in the open-plan area, and grazing light reveals every imperfection.
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Neubau202210 Jun 2022 11:29Ypsi aus NI schrieb:
How do you know that? Are you familiar with our house?
Just the gallery alone took a whole week to complete all the work...
Transitions from ceiling to walls had to be hand-sanded, etc. Of course, expectations can vary. The same applies to the ceiling: you can have only the joint taped and finished or the entire surface skim-coated. We have two large west-facing windows in the open-plan area; grazing light reveals every imperfection. No need to be so aggressive right away. It was a question, hence the question mark... We definitely don’t want a one-month delay in moving in due to painting. Better to have a good standard. I know the painter’s work since he was present at our hospital 😎
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Ypsi aus NI10 Jun 2022 11:30It was just a normal question from me....
Ypsi aus NI schrieb:
... Grazing light forgives nothing. No, that’s not quite right. Grazing light doesn’t care at all :p. The correct point is that as the homeowner, you might dislike seeing different textures or surfaces under grazing light if they don’t look perfectly smooth. But that’s a matter of personal taste and not everyone has to agree.
If you’ve lived for a long time in a (very) old house (like me), you might curse many things, but perfectly smooth walls are usually not the most important aspect in a new home 😉
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Ypsi aus NI10 Jun 2022 13:34i_b_n_a_n schrieb:
No, that’s not how it is; everything is completely irrelevant to the raking light :p. The correct point is that, as the builder/owner, you don’t like it when different textures or surfaces under the influence of raking light don’t look perfectly smooth like a baby’s bottom. And that’s something you can do, but it’s a matter of taste whether you want to.
Anyone who has lived for a long time in a (very) old house (me) might complain about many things, but perfectly smooth walls are not the most important thing in a new home 😉 I’m not talking about walls, only ceilings.
Personally, I can’t stand smooth, white walls. There won’t be any in our home.
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Fleckenzwerg21 Jun 2022 12:22We recently received offers for the complete house (ground floor + upper floor with some sloped ceilings, total living area 156 m² (1,680 sq ft)). Sanding, possibly spot-filling locally (the general contractor hands it over at Q2 level), painter’s fleece + paint on all walls and ceilings, roughly $16,000 gross. Roughly estimated, 20% of the costs are materials and 80% labor. Now we are also looking for ways to save some money here and there.
A colleague suggested renting a drywall sander from the hardware store and doing the sanding ourselves. It’s doable for a beginner, though tiring. The problem is that the painter can only start once I’m finished, and I can’t just take 1-2 weeks longer because the painter has a tight schedule and other clients. I could imagine handling some of the painting work myself. I have painted many times before, and my wife and I have been satisfied with the results so far. However, I have only painted textured wallpaper (such as “Raufaser”) before. Does painter’s fleece require different treatment? I would do the laundry room and office – areas where it doesn’t have to be perfect – and also some of the bedrooms. Masking takes a lot of time if you want it done properly. I could take care of that as well, including areas that I would normally have painted by professionals (e.g., large living/dining area).
Does anyone have experience with airless paint sprayer systems? I’ve heard they’re much faster than rollers... But I wonder, if that’s true, why do professionals still often use rollers? There must be a downside, right...?
A colleague suggested renting a drywall sander from the hardware store and doing the sanding ourselves. It’s doable for a beginner, though tiring. The problem is that the painter can only start once I’m finished, and I can’t just take 1-2 weeks longer because the painter has a tight schedule and other clients. I could imagine handling some of the painting work myself. I have painted many times before, and my wife and I have been satisfied with the results so far. However, I have only painted textured wallpaper (such as “Raufaser”) before. Does painter’s fleece require different treatment? I would do the laundry room and office – areas where it doesn’t have to be perfect – and also some of the bedrooms. Masking takes a lot of time if you want it done properly. I could take care of that as well, including areas that I would normally have painted by professionals (e.g., large living/dining area).
Does anyone have experience with airless paint sprayer systems? I’ve heard they’re much faster than rollers... But I wonder, if that’s true, why do professionals still often use rollers? There must be a downside, right...?
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