ᐅ Planning a Dutch Gable House on a Corner Plot

Created on: 21 Feb 2024 22:46
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LisaO
Hello,

we were able to reserve a plot of land (thank you very much for your help!) and would now like to plan a captain’s gable house.
We are quite satisfied with the exterior appearance of the house, the positioning on the plot, and the ground floor, but the upper floor is still causing us some concerns.
Maybe you have some ideas and suggestions for improvement. We would appreciate it!

Here are the key details:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1,062 m² (11,430 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 1
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development: yes
Number of parking spaces: at least 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: minimum pitch of 30 degrees
Architectural style: /
Orientation: north-south
Maximum heights/limits: max. ridge height: 9 m (30 ft)
Other requirements: parallel alignment to a property boundary

Owner requirements
Style, roof type, building type: captain’s gable house
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, age: two adults, two children (3 and 5 years); possibly a third child planned
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: approx. 170 m² (1,830 sq ft) total
Office: family use or home office? Home office (3-4 days per week)
Overnight guests per year: none
Open or closed architecture:
Conservative or modern design:
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, adjacent kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 8 seats with possibility to expand to 16 seats several times a year
Fireplace: no fireplace
Music/stereo wall: /
Balcony, roof terrace: /
Garage, carport: double carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: /
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, preferably with explanations why this or that should or should not be:
- Office needed on ground floor
- Spacious utility room with separate technical room and external access, because we often come home with dirty clothes and don’t want to bring dirt into the entrance area
- Covered entrance
- Fixed staircase to the attic to possibly set up an additional playroom for the children
- Three children’s bedrooms (one of which should serve as an additional office if no third child arrives)
- No separate dressing room

House design
Designed by: Architect
What is particularly liked? Why? Spacious entrance area and utility room, exterior appearance
What is disliked? Why? Dormer not centered; third children’s bedroom much too small; storage room on upper floor unnecessary
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system: heat pump

If you have to give up certain details/extensions
- Can give up: dormer
- Cannot give up: shower on ground floor, utility room, bedrooms, bathtub, walk-in showers

Ground floor plan of a house with entrance, kitchen, living room and garage


Upper floor plan of a residential house with double carport, scale 1:100


Red brick house with gray roof and double carport - north, east, west, south views.


Site plan of a plot: red house, blue outlines, river course, surrounding parcels.
-LotteS-30 May 2024 21:35
LisaO schrieb:

Do you think the toilet is poorly positioned because of its appearance?

You have to walk all the way around the door. It’s always in the way because you need to fully open it; otherwise, you’ll bump into the sink. And if someone comes in while you’re on the toilet, they might accidentally hit you with the door handle... It’s a very tight spot — if you happen to miss a step and are using crutches, you won’t be able to get around at all. Who designs something like this?

The thought of having the toilet in that spot would give me a constant feeling of stress while sitting there, worried that someone might suddenly force the door open and bump into me, for example, kids.
K a t j a30 May 2024 21:36
LisaO schrieb:


Do you think the toilet is poorly positioned because of its appearance?

The toilet is located immediately next to the door. In my opinion, this always creates an awkward feeling. Since the planner knows this, they cheated by having the door swing in the wrong direction. But that doesn’t make things better. When you open the door, you walk into the wall instead of into the room. Only when you open the door more than 90° can you actually enter. Someone entering the bathroom ends up hitting the person on the toilet with the door. Aside from that, where exactly is the toilet waste pipe supposed to connect on the ground floor? Try drawing that in! This is never the work of an architect, but rather some unprofessional amateur. I don’t understand why you are insisting on this sloppy work.
K a t j a30 May 2024 21:55
Here is another one with a captain-style entrance and a dormer for K2:

Floor plan of a house: living room, kitchen, hallway, guest room, utility room, shower, WC.


Floor plan of a house: central corridor, three rooms (K), bathroom, master bedroom, staircase.
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kbt09
30 May 2024 22:23
I don’t find the toilet right next to the door that bad (I have the same in my small bathroom), but the door opening the completely wrong way, considering the feel and layout of the room, really makes you flinch.
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LisaO
30 May 2024 22:25
Oh dear, we need to take some time to process this.

Thank you very much for the suggestions and the new examples!

I can’t say yet whether or why we will continue with the previous designs.

Of course, I would have preferred to hear that everything fits well, but I truly appreciate your honest feedback. We will clarify the issue with the wastewater soon.
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ypg
30 May 2024 22:32
LisaO schrieb:

Because we were unsure about the bathroom, we had it professionally planned and are actually satisfied.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not a fan of kids’ bathrooms and would rarely suggest one, including in this case.
But is it really your intention to have three small children brush their teeth behind the bathroom door in front of the sink, effectively blocking the entire bathroom? You don’t have a proper routine except one that nobody actually wants – where everyone only feels comfortable with the bathroom door locked because either they have to move away from the sink when someone else enters or to use the toilet in peace. Is there a similar term for toilet use like “food envy,” where everyone rushes because they’re afraid their turn will be taken? Does that cause irritable bowel syndrome?

@LisaO
You don’t need to reinvent the house, nor the purpose of a staircase or hallway.
You can discuss and question many things. But eventually, everything has been said.
As far as I’m concerned, build however you like, but then don’t ask questions. You want to use the freezer room as an entrance anyway, so go ahead. So what’s the point of the elaborate covered entrance?
But then just consider it thoroughly: with laundry washed there and you coming in with muddy feet. How many jackets per season do you have on the coat rack? Or in the hallway niche?

As a client, you should simply try to understand why things turn out differently than expected. If a problem disappears, you don’t need to plan around it as if it still exists.