Hello everyone,
We are in the early stages of planning our house and are currently visiting various model home exhibitions.
We saw a house featuring a window wall about 4 meters (13 feet) wide spanning two floors, which definitely looked very impressive visually. The windows were divided into sections measuring 2 by 2 meters (6.5 by 6.5 feet) each, with two elements stacked vertically.
My online research showed that window costs are not as high as I expected
Of course, installation costs are extra.
Is it easy to combine multiple units like this? In this case, four pieces of 2 x 2 meters (6.5 x 6.5 feet)?
What other drawbacks might I be overlooking? I’m aware of insulation values and cleaning concerns.
Has anyone worked with panoramic windows like these and can share concrete cost examples?
Maybe it will just be a passing idea and we’ll move on from it in a week.
Thanks in advance!
We are in the early stages of planning our house and are currently visiting various model home exhibitions.
We saw a house featuring a window wall about 4 meters (13 feet) wide spanning two floors, which definitely looked very impressive visually. The windows were divided into sections measuring 2 by 2 meters (6.5 by 6.5 feet) each, with two elements stacked vertically.
My online research showed that window costs are not as high as I expected
- Fixed uPVC window – 300 x 260 cm (10 x 8.5 feet) – 750 EUR
Of course, installation costs are extra.
Is it easy to combine multiple units like this? In this case, four pieces of 2 x 2 meters (6.5 x 6.5 feet)?
What other drawbacks might I be overlooking? I’m aware of insulation values and cleaning concerns.
Has anyone worked with panoramic windows like these and can share concrete cost examples?
Maybe it will just be a passing idea and we’ll move on from it in a week.
Thanks in advance!
D
Deliverer21 Feb 2018 10:54((Andreas)) schrieb:
The front would be oriented almost exactly to the west.
Would summer heat buildup be manageable there? We only have two small (or rather standard-sized) west-facing windows. These are completely shaded from 4 p.m. onward for two months in summer, otherwise it would be unbearable. Because the sun is so low in the west, even an overhang doesn’t help. For me, the west is by far the worst side for panoramic glass.
If it must be on the west side, then only with full-surface, high-quality external shading and air conditioning.
Hello,
We have four window units on the southwest side, each about 3 x 3 m (10 x 10 ft). The roof overhang of 2.5 m (8 ft) slopes upwards by approximately 6°, so that in winter, when the sun is low, it shines directly onto the kitchen about 10 m (33 ft) opposite. In summer, from around 4 p.m., sunlight reaches the floor in the window area. This way, we make use of solar gain in winter and shading in summer.
From an energy perspective, it should balance out almost evenly.
In my opinion, the slight increase in energy consumption is more than compensated by the brightly lit rooms.
Olli
We have four window units on the southwest side, each about 3 x 3 m (10 x 10 ft). The roof overhang of 2.5 m (8 ft) slopes upwards by approximately 6°, so that in winter, when the sun is low, it shines directly onto the kitchen about 10 m (33 ft) opposite. In summer, from around 4 p.m., sunlight reaches the floor in the window area. This way, we make use of solar gain in winter and shading in summer.
From an energy perspective, it should balance out almost evenly.
In my opinion, the slight increase in energy consumption is more than compensated by the brightly lit rooms.
Olli
Hm, well, I think you can’t really compare radiant cold inside a house through a larger window to the climate in a sunroom. The sensation is different when you’re sitting in a heated living space compared to a sunroom, where ideally the warmth/cold comes from three sides.
I just felt our patio windows on the south and west sides during bright sunshine and freezing weather. The glass on the south side feels warmer than the exterior wall, while the west window, still shaded, feels noticeably colder than the wall.
My parents have a house where both gable ends are glazed... but behind those are very large rooms, so you don’t spend much time right next to the windows.
Anyway, I don’t find roller shutters very attractive, and blinds like venetian or external blinds can get expensive. I agree with the point that the house should be planned accordingly. A panoramic window wouldn’t be a nice-to-have in a standard house (such as a Viebrockhaus or Heinz von Heiden), but rather should be determined by the orientation, with appropriate roof overhangs. The room behind would probably be more of an open staircase or gallery, where rooms behind benefit from natural light only through balustrades or skylights, since they face north.
And of course, such a window should offer a view: if your garden later only has lawn (what exactly is a garden?), or if you mostly overlook other residential houses or a new development, it would be more of a drawback.
The structural aspect would bother me the most. That requires a significantly higher cost.
I would always build a fixed window of normal height with a width of 3 or 4 meters (about 10 to 13 feet) to have an amazing view, even on the north side. Structural requirements apply there as well, but everything else is manageable.
Cleaning shouldn’t be overlooked either, because a beautiful window façade only looks good when it’s clean. That can become quite annoying rather quickly.
I just felt our patio windows on the south and west sides during bright sunshine and freezing weather. The glass on the south side feels warmer than the exterior wall, while the west window, still shaded, feels noticeably colder than the wall.
My parents have a house where both gable ends are glazed... but behind those are very large rooms, so you don’t spend much time right next to the windows.
Anyway, I don’t find roller shutters very attractive, and blinds like venetian or external blinds can get expensive. I agree with the point that the house should be planned accordingly. A panoramic window wouldn’t be a nice-to-have in a standard house (such as a Viebrockhaus or Heinz von Heiden), but rather should be determined by the orientation, with appropriate roof overhangs. The room behind would probably be more of an open staircase or gallery, where rooms behind benefit from natural light only through balustrades or skylights, since they face north.
And of course, such a window should offer a view: if your garden later only has lawn (what exactly is a garden?), or if you mostly overlook other residential houses or a new development, it would be more of a drawback.
The structural aspect would bother me the most. That requires a significantly higher cost.
I would always build a fixed window of normal height with a width of 3 or 4 meters (about 10 to 13 feet) to have an amazing view, even on the north side. Structural requirements apply there as well, but everything else is manageable.
Cleaning shouldn’t be overlooked either, because a beautiful window façade only looks good when it’s clean. That can become quite annoying rather quickly.
D
Deliverer21 Feb 2018 11:21wrobel schrieb:
We have four window units on the southwest side, each about 3 x 3 m (10 x 10 ft).
The roof overhang of 2.5 m (8 ft) slopes upward by about 6° … Yes, that can work roughly like that.
Our front faces south-southwest, and the ridge runs exactly in that direction. This means the glass front extends up to the roof and tapers to a point. Since the roof slopes much further down to the west than to the south, shading is stronger at lower sun angles.
Overall, the roof overhang above the balcony is about 3.5 m (11.5 ft). So in midsummer, the sun reaches roughly one meter (3 ft) in front of the glass facade. It still gets warm, but it’s worth it.
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chand198621 Feb 2018 11:39ypg schrieb:
I just felt the inside of our patio windows on the south and west sides on a bright sunny day with freezing weather. The glass on the south side is warmer than the exterior wall, while the west window, still in shadow, is clearly colder than the wall.Exterior wall? Why would the glass-to-wall temperature difference on the outside be relevant for radiant cold on the inside?
What would be interesting is to know the actual surface temperature of the glass and the wall on the inside—measured, not just felt. Anything else doesn’t really say much about perceived radiant cold. That has nothing to do with the feeling of contact cold when touching.
ypg schrieb:
Hmm, well, I think that radiant cold _inside_ a house caused by a larger window cannot be compared to the climate inside a conservatory. The sensation is different when you are in a heated living area compared to a conservatory, where optimally warmth or cold comes from three sides.That may well be true.
I was just initially surprised by Steffen80’s comment. At my parents’ place, where the wall to the patio is almost entirely glass, there is no noticeable radiant cold in winter either. And that is a standard installation, not even a premium one.
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