Hello dear forum members,
Please excuse the somewhat anecdotal style at the beginning of this post. The underlying question is genuinely serious.
My partner and I recently visited a kitchen specialist retailer. Apart from the fact that all the warnings regarding the budget proved true (15,000 EUR instead of 10,000 EUR), it was a pleasant experience.
During the initial discussion, the topic eventually turned to dishwashers and how ours is almost always full, either with dirty or clean dishes. The kitchen fitter joked that we might need two. We laughed and continued planning as usual, of course with just one.
A few days later, I’m still thinking about it. There might actually be something to it.
You load the dishwasher until it’s full, and when it finally finishes after about 2 hours, you unload everything only to put dishes back in 15 minutes later, which then get used again and put back in another 15 minutes later.
In our case, it often happens that we take half of the dishes directly from the dishwasher for immediate use. When the dishwasher really needs to be emptied, it’s usually because there’s new used crockery, and by then, there isn’t much left inside.
Could it actually make sense to have two dishwashers from this perspective? You save one unloading process into cabinets that, it feels, only store half of the dishes they’re meant to hold anyway. A dishwasher with two pull-out racks and a cutlery tray already offers quite a bit of capacity. Two wouldn’t take up that much more space or be that much more expensive...
This mainly applies to regularly used dishes, cutlery, and “normal” pans and pots.
Specialty cookware like the asparagus pot and crepe pan would still have to be put away normally.
Aside from the fact that it goes against all traditional habits...
Is this a crazy idea or a concept worth considering?
Good luck
Tolentino
Please excuse the somewhat anecdotal style at the beginning of this post. The underlying question is genuinely serious.
My partner and I recently visited a kitchen specialist retailer. Apart from the fact that all the warnings regarding the budget proved true (15,000 EUR instead of 10,000 EUR), it was a pleasant experience.
During the initial discussion, the topic eventually turned to dishwashers and how ours is almost always full, either with dirty or clean dishes. The kitchen fitter joked that we might need two. We laughed and continued planning as usual, of course with just one.
A few days later, I’m still thinking about it. There might actually be something to it.
You load the dishwasher until it’s full, and when it finally finishes after about 2 hours, you unload everything only to put dishes back in 15 minutes later, which then get used again and put back in another 15 minutes later.
In our case, it often happens that we take half of the dishes directly from the dishwasher for immediate use. When the dishwasher really needs to be emptied, it’s usually because there’s new used crockery, and by then, there isn’t much left inside.
Could it actually make sense to have two dishwashers from this perspective? You save one unloading process into cabinets that, it feels, only store half of the dishes they’re meant to hold anyway. A dishwasher with two pull-out racks and a cutlery tray already offers quite a bit of capacity. Two wouldn’t take up that much more space or be that much more expensive...
This mainly applies to regularly used dishes, cutlery, and “normal” pans and pots.
Specialty cookware like the asparagus pot and crepe pan would still have to be put away normally.
Aside from the fact that it goes against all traditional habits...
Is this a crazy idea or a concept worth considering?
Good luck
Tolentino
A typical household doesn’t really need two ovens, yet many have them (including us)... The great thing about building a new home is that you can design everything to suit your needs and eliminate small everyday issues. For example, I used to get up often at night, and the light would bother my husband. Now we have small lamps under the bed that are controlled by motion sensors.
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Matthew035 Jun 2020 11:00It's also a matter of personal taste whether someone likes the appearance or not, so that's definitely not an argument since it's subjective. It looks like a wardrobe door anyway...
Decadence... hmm... I also find that too judgmental. I would find it practical, but I think it’s really only worthwhile for large families.
Decadence... hmm... I also find that too judgmental. I would find it practical, but I think it’s really only worthwhile for large families.
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nordanney5 Jun 2020 11:06Katdreas schrieb:
can eliminate small everyday annoyancesBut that is not a small "everyday annoyance." Matthew03 schrieb:
Decadence...hmm...I also find that too judgmental.Of course, it’s subjective. But if someone doesn’t even want to empty their dishwasher anymore, it starts heading in that direction. I could exaggerate and say: Then just do without cabinets and the cutlery drawer. Only three or four dishwashers and the kitchen setup would be spread out.
There are three of us now, but we are planning for 5 people within the next 3-4 years.
There is some truth to the idea that my perception might be distorted due to Corona.
Especially since I currently only have a 40cm (16 inches) dishwasher.
Hmm, maybe it’s more of a crazy idea after all.
Do dishwashers break if they are not used regularly (several times a week)?
There is some truth to the idea that my perception might be distorted due to Corona.
Especially since I currently only have a 40cm (16 inches) dishwasher.
Hmm, maybe it’s more of a crazy idea after all.
Do dishwashers break if they are not used regularly (several times a week)?
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nordanney5 Jun 2020 11:53Tolentino schrieb:
Do dishwashers break if they are not used regularly (several times a week)?As far as I know, they don’t. I currently use a large-capacity dishwasher on my own. It doesn’t harm it to go a week without running it. Saves water and detergent tablets.M
Matthew035 Jun 2020 11:59nordanney schrieb:
Of course, it’s subjective. Sure, you can see it that way, but a few years ago, for example, ice makers or steam ovens were considered extravagant, and now they are standard.
nordanney schrieb:
But if someone doesn’t even want to unload their dishwasher anymore, that’s going too far. That wouldn’t be my argument either. But when I notice that the two of us, who cook almost daily, sometimes have the problem that not everything fits in at once (larger pots, etc.), I can easily imagine that with three children having a second appliance is a legitimate need.
Tolentino schrieb:
probably more of a crazy idea. I don’t see it that way; it’s worth discussing.
I already wrote in the first post, if the kitchen layout allows it easily, why not? Here in the neighborhood, the household’s second car is parked in the driveway 90% of the time instead of being driven, but nobody sees that as extravagant.
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