ᐅ New Construction of a Single-Family Home on a Sloping Lot
Created on: 30 Jan 2020 19:44
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BauherrFranken
Dear forum members,
After purchasing the plot, we thankfully received today the initial draft from the architect of the general contractor.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 735 sqm (21 meters wide, 35 meters deep) (22,700 sq ft (69 ft) wide, 115 ft deep)
Slope: yes
Site coverage ratio: ?
Floor area ratio: ?
Building envelope, building line and boundary: basically at the rear part of the plot
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2 (double garage)
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: south/north
Maximum heights/limits: 1.125 m knee wall at top
Other requirements: roof pitch 38 degrees
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof
Basement, stories: basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, ages: 3 persons, 2 adults, 1 child (0.5), possibly one more
Space requirement: total 160-180 sqm (1,720-1,940 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office in basement
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: TV wall, possibly as divider between living and dining areas
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with direct house access
Utility garden, greenhouse: flower beds and lawn
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
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House Design
Who created the plan: architect of the general contractor
What do you particularly like? Why? – Entrance located in the basement because otherwise a steep entrance staircase around the house would be necessary; home office with window in the basement; terrace on the garage; upper floor with separate bathroom for children.
What do you dislike? We don’t like the orientation. We would prefer the gable sides to face north/south (mainly for the view; as currently planned, from the upper floor the southern or city view is only visible through roof windows). On the ground floor, a laundry room is planned facing the sunny south, which we find less practical. With the office in the basement, the usable living area is now 212 sqm (2,280 sq ft). We think we can manage well with 180 sqm (1,940 sq ft) overall. Perhaps the children’s rooms are each 2 sqm (22 sq ft) too small. Also, we are not comfortable with the many small, irregularly arranged windows.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: approx. 550,000 EUR turnkey plus 20,000 EUR landscaping plus 10,000 EUR landscaping = 580,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 550,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: ?
If you had to give up, which details/finishings
- Utility room on the ground floor
- Cannot do without: separate bathroom for children
Why is the design like it is now? For example,
We gave some initial verbal ideas but allowed the planner considerable freedom.
What is the most important/basic question regarding the floor plan in 130 characters?
The planner sees only this orientation as sensible; however, we do not like it. How could the ground floor be better designed despite the staircase at the south side, which takes space from more practical rooms (possibly the kitchen)? Any ideas on the exterior design?
After purchasing the plot, we thankfully received today the initial draft from the architect of the general contractor.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 735 sqm (21 meters wide, 35 meters deep) (22,700 sq ft (69 ft) wide, 115 ft deep)
Slope: yes
Site coverage ratio: ?
Floor area ratio: ?
Building envelope, building line and boundary: basically at the rear part of the plot
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2 (double garage)
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: south/north
Maximum heights/limits: 1.125 m knee wall at top
Other requirements: roof pitch 38 degrees
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof
Basement, stories: basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, ages: 3 persons, 2 adults, 1 child (0.5), possibly one more
Space requirement: total 160-180 sqm (1,720-1,940 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office in basement
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: TV wall, possibly as divider between living and dining areas
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with direct house access
Utility garden, greenhouse: flower beds and lawn
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
-
House Design
Who created the plan: architect of the general contractor
What do you particularly like? Why? – Entrance located in the basement because otherwise a steep entrance staircase around the house would be necessary; home office with window in the basement; terrace on the garage; upper floor with separate bathroom for children.
What do you dislike? We don’t like the orientation. We would prefer the gable sides to face north/south (mainly for the view; as currently planned, from the upper floor the southern or city view is only visible through roof windows). On the ground floor, a laundry room is planned facing the sunny south, which we find less practical. With the office in the basement, the usable living area is now 212 sqm (2,280 sq ft). We think we can manage well with 180 sqm (1,940 sq ft) overall. Perhaps the children’s rooms are each 2 sqm (22 sq ft) too small. Also, we are not comfortable with the many small, irregularly arranged windows.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: approx. 550,000 EUR turnkey plus 20,000 EUR landscaping plus 10,000 EUR landscaping = 580,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 550,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: ?
If you had to give up, which details/finishings
- Utility room on the ground floor
- Cannot do without: separate bathroom for children
Why is the design like it is now? For example,
We gave some initial verbal ideas but allowed the planner considerable freedom.
What is the most important/basic question regarding the floor plan in 130 characters?
The planner sees only this orientation as sensible; however, we do not like it. How could the ground floor be better designed despite the staircase at the south side, which takes space from more practical rooms (possibly the kitchen)? Any ideas on the exterior design?
BauherrFranken schrieb:
This is what the development plan says:Hmm... Your house has to be positioned quite far back. There is practically no north-facing garden, and very little on the west side either. So your main garden will be on the south side. And you want to connect that to the house via a garage?
From the photos, the terrain doesn’t look steep enough for the slope over the length of the house to reach the height of one floor. This would mean either your ground floor protrudes significantly above the terrain (also at the back), or your basement is much lower than the original ground level, which would require digging a “trench” into the ground for the garage driveway…
Based on the development plan and the property photos, I would instinctively suggest placing the living areas directly adjacent to the south garden. That would mean no garage incorporated into the house. Instead, I’d simply create a driveway up to the house to avoid having to carry things too far all the time. We also park outside, right in front of the house, with two very small children, and apart from occasionally getting a few drops of rain or scraping ice 2-3 times a year, nothing serious has happened because of it….
You could also initially omit the garage altogether (if the budget is tight) and build it later when you’re sure you need it and have the financial means.
If your garden were behind or beside the house, I would plan with a basement garage as well. But given the house placement, I would really think that through.
ltenzer schrieb:
Based on the development plan and the photo of the plot, I would instinctively lean towards placing the living areas directly adjacent to the south-facing garden. This would mean no garage attached to the house. I completely agree with you. Given the circumstances, the garage doesn’t belong inside the house.
Basement: entrance, utility room, guest WC, living, dining, kitchen
Ground floor: parents’ bedroom, parents’ bathroom, children’s rooms, children’s bathroom
Upper floor: playroom, office
BauherrFranken schrieb:
The planner regards only this orientation as reasonable; Me too, especially considering photovoltaics.
BauherrFranken schrieb:
Having the terrace on the south side definitely makes sense. With such a large plot, a rooftop terrace really doesn’t make sense, unless you don’t know what else to do with your money.
BauherrFranken schrieb:
Garages are usually at the front. The neighbor to the right has integrated theirs into the house. This solution is simply more practical and nicer. ...and more expensive and causes more energy efficiency issues.
BauherrFranken schrieb:
No, it is primarily practical because you don’t have to carry groceries and small children through the garden first. In my opinion, this is often overrated. When shopping, you don’t always park right at the entrance either.
@Escroda
Can you explain how the two-story classification is defined here?
I’m reading about a 50cm (20 inches) knee wall and two stories as ground floor plus attic. To me, that seems contradictory. Is this just an outdated term and they actually mean single-story?
@BauherrFranken
Now might be a good time to provide more information about the slope’s steepness. As you can see, opinions differ on whether a full story with a depth of 10 to 11 meters (33 to 36 feet) can actually be realized here. I tend to think yes, with a bit of filling here and digging there, but maybe it’s still not enough?
Can you explain how the two-story classification is defined here?
I’m reading about a 50cm (20 inches) knee wall and two stories as ground floor plus attic. To me, that seems contradictory. Is this just an outdated term and they actually mean single-story?
@BauherrFranken
Now might be a good time to provide more information about the slope’s steepness. As you can see, opinions differ on whether a full story with a depth of 10 to 11 meters (33 to 36 feet) can actually be realized here. I tend to think yes, with a bit of filling here and digging there, but maybe it’s still not enough?
BauherrFranken schrieb:
Sorry, that’s all I have! But I also know that I’m a total beginner when it comes to building. I think the right step now is to go to an architect first.Make sure to discuss costs during the first meeting and decide in advance which project phases you want to hire them for—maybe just phases 1 to 4 at first. Also, ask about a fixed fee to avoid any unpleasant surprises later. The architect will expect to be paid after an initial consultation, which may be free.kaho674 schrieb:
Is that just an outdated term and do they actually mean single-story?No, with dormers and/or cross-gables, the limit to a full storey can be reached.Similar topics