ᐅ New Construction of a Single-Family Home on a Sloping Lot
Created on: 30 Jan 2020 19:44
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BauherrFranken
Dear forum members,
After purchasing the plot, we thankfully received today the initial draft from the architect of the general contractor.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 735 sqm (21 meters wide, 35 meters deep) (22,700 sq ft (69 ft) wide, 115 ft deep)
Slope: yes
Site coverage ratio: ?
Floor area ratio: ?
Building envelope, building line and boundary: basically at the rear part of the plot
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2 (double garage)
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: south/north
Maximum heights/limits: 1.125 m knee wall at top
Other requirements: roof pitch 38 degrees
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof
Basement, stories: basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, ages: 3 persons, 2 adults, 1 child (0.5), possibly one more
Space requirement: total 160-180 sqm (1,720-1,940 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office in basement
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: TV wall, possibly as divider between living and dining areas
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with direct house access
Utility garden, greenhouse: flower beds and lawn
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
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House Design
Who created the plan: architect of the general contractor
What do you particularly like? Why? – Entrance located in the basement because otherwise a steep entrance staircase around the house would be necessary; home office with window in the basement; terrace on the garage; upper floor with separate bathroom for children.
What do you dislike? We don’t like the orientation. We would prefer the gable sides to face north/south (mainly for the view; as currently planned, from the upper floor the southern or city view is only visible through roof windows). On the ground floor, a laundry room is planned facing the sunny south, which we find less practical. With the office in the basement, the usable living area is now 212 sqm (2,280 sq ft). We think we can manage well with 180 sqm (1,940 sq ft) overall. Perhaps the children’s rooms are each 2 sqm (22 sq ft) too small. Also, we are not comfortable with the many small, irregularly arranged windows.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: approx. 550,000 EUR turnkey plus 20,000 EUR landscaping plus 10,000 EUR landscaping = 580,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 550,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: ?
If you had to give up, which details/finishings
- Utility room on the ground floor
- Cannot do without: separate bathroom for children
Why is the design like it is now? For example,
We gave some initial verbal ideas but allowed the planner considerable freedom.
What is the most important/basic question regarding the floor plan in 130 characters?
The planner sees only this orientation as sensible; however, we do not like it. How could the ground floor be better designed despite the staircase at the south side, which takes space from more practical rooms (possibly the kitchen)? Any ideas on the exterior design?
After purchasing the plot, we thankfully received today the initial draft from the architect of the general contractor.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 735 sqm (21 meters wide, 35 meters deep) (22,700 sq ft (69 ft) wide, 115 ft deep)
Slope: yes
Site coverage ratio: ?
Floor area ratio: ?
Building envelope, building line and boundary: basically at the rear part of the plot
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2 (double garage)
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: south/north
Maximum heights/limits: 1.125 m knee wall at top
Other requirements: roof pitch 38 degrees
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof
Basement, stories: basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, ages: 3 persons, 2 adults, 1 child (0.5), possibly one more
Space requirement: total 160-180 sqm (1,720-1,940 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office in basement
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: TV wall, possibly as divider between living and dining areas
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with direct house access
Utility garden, greenhouse: flower beds and lawn
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
-
House Design
Who created the plan: architect of the general contractor
What do you particularly like? Why? – Entrance located in the basement because otherwise a steep entrance staircase around the house would be necessary; home office with window in the basement; terrace on the garage; upper floor with separate bathroom for children.
What do you dislike? We don’t like the orientation. We would prefer the gable sides to face north/south (mainly for the view; as currently planned, from the upper floor the southern or city view is only visible through roof windows). On the ground floor, a laundry room is planned facing the sunny south, which we find less practical. With the office in the basement, the usable living area is now 212 sqm (2,280 sq ft). We think we can manage well with 180 sqm (1,940 sq ft) overall. Perhaps the children’s rooms are each 2 sqm (22 sq ft) too small. Also, we are not comfortable with the many small, irregularly arranged windows.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: approx. 550,000 EUR turnkey plus 20,000 EUR landscaping plus 10,000 EUR landscaping = 580,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 550,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: ?
If you had to give up, which details/finishings
- Utility room on the ground floor
- Cannot do without: separate bathroom for children
Why is the design like it is now? For example,
We gave some initial verbal ideas but allowed the planner considerable freedom.
What is the most important/basic question regarding the floor plan in 130 characters?
The planner sees only this orientation as sensible; however, we do not like it. How could the ground floor be better designed despite the staircase at the south side, which takes space from more practical rooms (possibly the kitchen)? Any ideas on the exterior design?
Crossy schrieb:
This thing will be expensive with all the projections and recesses.Yes, the building shape has become noticeably more complex. It would be more expensive even if it were smaller now.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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BauherrFranken27 Jun 2020 16:23I don’t have any exact measurements yet. We approached the architect with the intention of having about 180 sqm (1,940 sq ft) of living space. Initially, he drew a design with many more projections and recesses. After that, we asked him to create a simpler version and gave him some photos from Pinterest as inspiration. We will speak with him again next week. We like the drawing, but we believe that some features will need to be scaled back for cost reasons. In particular, the staircase projection might not be absolutely necessary.
BauherrFranken schrieb:
We approached the architect with the intention of having about 180 sqm (1,937 sq ft) of living space. I would have found it more interesting to read about the motivation behind their own changes compared to the old design. Earlier, I only saw the new drawings, without any way to understand how the architect arrived at this result.
BauherrFranken schrieb:
At first, he drew something for us that had even more projections and recesses. I’m afraid you took the warnings about unimaginative draftsmen the wrong way and ended up with a big-name architect who created a composition of fresh rooms on a foam of crisp walls—nonsense as a kind of lean cuisine, obviously without any sauce.
BauherrFranken schrieb:
After that, we commissioned him to draw something simpler and provided him with some Pinterest photos as references. Oh dear, well, you also followed the most important “don’t” there.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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BauherrFranken27 Jun 2020 17:26Our motivation to hire an architect came from the fact that the draftsman who created the original designs also produced a second floor plan that was not usable. The architect immediately provided a floor plan we could work with. We just didn’t like the exterior shell. That’s also why we included the Pinterest photos — he should see what appeals to us. Or should we have him create another ten random sketches? By the way, the man is basically a realist, in his early 60s, and doesn’t need to prove himself anymore.
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BauherrFranken27 Jun 2020 18:21Shiny86 schrieb:
You have to go through the bathroom to get to the master bedroom? I wouldn’t plan it that way.Good point!
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