Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
Silgiga schrieb:
Did you start the planning with your maximum budget in mind?No, but he doesn’t know that.
I’m actually not too concerned about the maximum budget. I set a kind of soft cap on how much I want to borrow from the bank because I want to keep my monthly payments below a certain level, considering the rising interest rates, and I also want to have it paid off within a certain time frame.
gutentag schrieb:
The 590k does not yet include additional costs due to the slope.Is that so? I thought I had spoken with the general contractors and had read the offer, but okay, you would know. :pgutentag schrieb:
Do a plan for the entire plot and have it priced. Then you’ll see why building on a slope is more expensive.I guess I’ll have to do that then.gutentag schrieb:
I’m still waiting for detailed documents about the plot.Here, you’ll probably be waiting a while—you can’t share plot information without some people starting to Google your address.
kati1337 schrieb:
You will have to wait quite a while here, as you can’t share any plot details without some crazies starting to Google your address. That seems to be a misunderstanding. No one wants to know your exact address. The information relates to things like size, layout, slope, neighboring buildings, trees, rivers, cardinal directions – in short, a site plan with relevant surroundings. These details can easily be kept anonymous.
kati1337 schrieb:
Is that so? I had the impression I had spoken with the general contractors and read the offer, but well, you would know. :p
I guess I’ll have to do that then.
Here, you have to wait a long time for that as well; you can’t share any plot information without some crazies starting to Google your address. If YOU mean all earthworks, slope stabilizations, stable crane base, etc. are included in the price, then that’s fine.
I’m happy to help.
If that’s your concern? I would be more worried about the construction costs. If I had the option to Google, at least I could look myself where the issues with the plot are. You seem to be approaching this rather naively.
Otherwise, @K a t j a already mentioned what I asked for. Unfortunately, no response from you.
@kati1337 .. how wide is the lot? I would at least like to play around with some ideas. One of them would be to make the house wider and less deep.
I also just looked again at what I like about the floor plan, which is, for example, the combination of house, entrance area, and garage connection.
I also just looked again at what I like about the floor plan, which is, for example, the combination of house, entrance area, and garage connection.
K a t j a schrieb:
This seems to be a misunderstanding. No one wants to know your address. The information needed is about things like size, layout, slope, neighboring buildings, trees, rivers, cardinal directions—in short, a site plan with relevant surrounding data. This can easily be kept anonymous. Yes, we’ve had this situation before with another property here.
And about three pages further into the thread, someone asked me if I was aware that there is a bakery across the street that might be noisy on Saturday mornings, and that there is also a bus stop nearby. That felt a bit creepy, to put it mildly.
So, twist and turn it however you want, there will be no further property details shared this time.
I have received good feedback on the floor plan, which I will review and incorporate.
Whether and how we build on the slope and how we cover the costs remains our concern.