ᐅ Floor Plan Optimization for Urban Villa + Considerations for Land Elevation
Created on: 31 Jan 2020 13:29
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Shiny86
Plot size 492 sqm (5293 sq ft)
Slope yes
Site coverage ratio?
Floor area ratio?
Building envelope, building line, and boundary?
Boundary development?
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2
Roof type Pyramid roof, 25 degrees
Architectural style Modern urban villa
Orientation Main entrance facing north
Maximum heights/limits
Additional requirements?
Clients’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type
Modern urban villa with pyramid roof, 25 degrees
Basement, floors 2 full floors without basement
Number of occupants 4
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of parking spaces 8-10
Garage
House design
Who designed it?
-Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
Large living area, master bathroom
What don’t you like? Why?
Utility room quite small and master bedroom small, children’s room somewhat too large
Why is the design as it is now?
The architect implemented the corresponding wishes
What do you think is especially good or bad about it?
Good: large living area
I am uncertain about the half-height window sizes and the swing direction of the doors
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What do you think about the floor plans?
Slope yes
Site coverage ratio?
Floor area ratio?
Building envelope, building line, and boundary?
Boundary development?
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2
Roof type Pyramid roof, 25 degrees
Architectural style Modern urban villa
Orientation Main entrance facing north
Maximum heights/limits
Additional requirements?
Clients’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type
Modern urban villa with pyramid roof, 25 degrees
Basement, floors 2 full floors without basement
Number of occupants 4
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of parking spaces 8-10
Garage
House design
Who designed it?
-Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
Large living area, master bathroom
What don’t you like? Why?
Utility room quite small and master bedroom small, children’s room somewhat too large
Why is the design as it is now?
The architect implemented the corresponding wishes
What do you think is especially good or bad about it?
Good: large living area
I am uncertain about the half-height window sizes and the swing direction of the doors
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
- Where could it still be optimized? Would you recommend different window dimensions or sill heights?
- What do you think is poor or what would you do differently?
- A partition wall will be added in the walk-in closet. That would theoretically allow watching TV from the bed. I am considering a lightweight wall. I plan to place a 211cm (83 inches) Pax combination wardrobe in the closet. The closet is planned with a raw width of 218cm (86 inches). Do you think 218cm is enough for the Pax once the walls are plastered, or how wide should the rough dimensions preferably be?
- Is the hallway on the ground floor too narrow?
- Would you raise the ground level? The house would be 40cm (16 inches) below street level. If I build a terrace into the garden, it would be about 1m (3 ft) difference. You could raise only the house level, resulting in approximately 1.6m (5 ft) difference between terrace and garden. I don’t know anyone living below street level. Raising the garden would probably not be allowed without permits, and affected neighbors likely wouldn’t agree. On the sides of the house adjacent to neighbors, raising is permitted only up to certain limits. I am overwhelmed with the decision.
- Do you have any ideas for arranging the sofa differently and placing the TV sensibly? My husband doesn’t want the sofa back facing a window. I still need to get used to placing the sofa in the middle of the room.
- Is the kitchen size sufficient for a nice kitchen with an island?
What do you think about the floor plans?
Ysop*** schrieb:
No one needs to be labeled as a bulimic or anything like that here. The key phrase was "in my mental cinema." Whether she actually is, no idea—based on profiling, she would be a typical example—or at least someone with a learned anxiety about not measuring up to Aunt Trude’s baking skills.
Ypsi aus NI schrieb:
You said it: it’s YOUR mental cinema. The floor plan thread was exhausting, but more so for the original poster than for everyone else. [...] In that respect, I think it’s great that people are thinking about escape routes, sight lines, etc. These details really create the final WOW effect. I can hardly imagine the original poster having it any harder—I had already withdrawn here once and was asked several times by the OP for my opinion (which, as known, is not sugarcoated). And I’m afraid that even with WOW effects, a substitute villa remains a substitute villa. Ceterum censeo, an overdose of symmetry kills the potential WOW effects.
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Hmm, I remember that there were pages of discussions here about just a few centimeters (inches) of railing heights (and window widths). I found that really quite “unnecessary.” And now this?! Reading it is truly frustrating. You simply set the railing a bit higher, make the window smaller, and balance it visually from the outside with a bench or a bush.
Well, 197 pages for a house discussion, where the final result (layout) looks no different from most other houses, is quite a lot.
I also don’t understand why questions about things like window sill height are asked when there is an architect involved. In a forum, everyone shares their personal opinion, sometimes with background knowledge, but not always.
Regarding the spotlights, there are plenty of companies specialized in advising on where, which, and how many spotlights are best. Today, there is a vast range of options that a forum certainly cannot cover. In living areas, I don’t need spotlights; there are more interesting lighting options than turning a 50m² (540 sq ft) space into an office.
It’s good to give it a lot of thought, especially when doing it for the first time (building a house). From what I know of their kitchen planning, it seems very one-dimensional and copies whatever is currently trendy, whether it fits or not. In my opinion, it lacks a bit of creativity and perhaps the imagination of how things could look. But that’s the fear many have of making a mistake and then being “punished” by their own environment. There are thousands of ideas available on various platforms, moving away from the standard template.
I also don’t understand why questions about things like window sill height are asked when there is an architect involved. In a forum, everyone shares their personal opinion, sometimes with background knowledge, but not always.
Regarding the spotlights, there are plenty of companies specialized in advising on where, which, and how many spotlights are best. Today, there is a vast range of options that a forum certainly cannot cover. In living areas, I don’t need spotlights; there are more interesting lighting options than turning a 50m² (540 sq ft) space into an office.
It’s good to give it a lot of thought, especially when doing it for the first time (building a house). From what I know of their kitchen planning, it seems very one-dimensional and copies whatever is currently trendy, whether it fits or not. In my opinion, it lacks a bit of creativity and perhaps the imagination of how things could look. But that’s the fear many have of making a mistake and then being “punished” by their own environment. There are thousands of ideas available on various platforms, moving away from the standard template.
evelinoz schrieb:
But this is the fear, like with many, of doing something wrong and then being "punished" by one’s own circle.The fear is also expressed openly. The original poster @Shiny86 acknowledges it as well. But you already said it correctly: the fear of not following the mainstream and then being judged negatively?
With a turnkey build, you basically can’t do anything wrong. It will be a livable house, whether the windows are 151cm (60 inches) or 201cm (79 inches) wide. In the end, what matters is the style of the house and personal taste, although the former is also influenced by taste.
Taste, in turn, reflects personality, and that shows whether you are building your own home or a forum-inspired house.
You can only go wrong in relation to your own expectations. But you can only learn from experience. If you haven’t had that experience, you just ask. It doesn’t often get as out of hand as it does here, but some people do tend to stand in their own way.
I am a bit like that by nature as well, but I have simply learned that it’s not worth overthinking or dwelling on things too much. Some things you just have to accept.
I am a bit like that by nature as well, but I have simply learned that it’s not worth overthinking or dwelling on things too much. Some things you just have to accept.
What some of the comments on the last few pages said, I don’t think is okay. Therefore, I want to thank the posts from Unsern who have defended me.
The mental image described by @11ant does not apply to me at all.
A few weeks before I started dealing with the house construction, I made wrong decisions. Actually, they were “right” decisions but implemented incorrectly. This concerns the life of another person and is irreversible. I really don’t want to write more about it because it’s too personal. In any case, I then vowed that for every major decision in my life, I would try to decide as correctly as possible. Building a house is part of that.
The height of the railing has actually been the same since design number one—at 87.5cm (34.4 inches). I don’t have friends who have built new houses. And I only found out after planning the kitchen that kitchen manufacturers offer great options for designing the utility room, for example, with the washing machine on a pedestal. I had always neglected the utility room before, but since we don’t have a basement or garage, I want to make the most of the storage space. Then it just happened that I planned with the kitchen consultant, and he said that the railing height was really bad for a 91cm (35.8 inches) high countertop. Enough about that.
Current status: they would have raised the railing height for us, but we arranged the appliances in the room differently, and I got a different corner of the room to plan.
Before I become unnecessarily unpopular with the general contractor, I asked here about experiences.
And I do think I’ve benefited a lot from this thread. A few details make a difference, or sometimes just a couple of centimeters (inches), for example to keep in mind so that you can plan your cabinet systems well and don’t regret it later. I succeeded with that in the bedroom, kitchen, and wardrobe. Honestly, if I hadn’t signed up here, I wouldn’t have paid attention. That’s just one small example and isn’t meant to justify the length of the thread. This thread got so long because I got lost and was too meticulous. But I didn’t know where else to put my thoughts. Across these almost 200 pages, I have received SO many great tips on all sorts of topics—not just the floor plan. It also covered the garden, cabinet systems, tips for electrical planning, and so on.
Anyway, I still want to say that there is nowhere in the forum rules that prohibits keeping your own thread active for a long time. And where does it say you can’t open another thread for your own spotlight planning just because you went overboard in the floor plan thread? Other users also ask for help with their spotlights. Of course, I understand that you can get professional advice. But I don’t see the point. I don’t find spotlights extremely appealing. That’s why I only wanted a few in the hallway and even proposed an idea myself for how it could look. I just wanted some feedback and input. Isn’t that what the forum is for? Why have I lost my right to make such threads?
And my taste is not up for debate here. I think the kitchen turned out well. A good mix of design and functionality. But this isn’t about the kitchen, right? Why can’t I have mainstream taste? I’m not doing this for others. I just find a clean look elegant. I love my black kitchen with a Dekton ceramic countertop in marble pattern and an island with undercounter lighting and a Berbel Downline extractor. What is the problem with following trends if you like them??? I’m not doing it just because it’s popular today, but because I think it’s cool. Honestly, I didn’t even know kitchens could look this sexy nowadays.
Anyway. Thanks to everyone who gave me further input here on the last pages.
The mental image described by @11ant does not apply to me at all.
A few weeks before I started dealing with the house construction, I made wrong decisions. Actually, they were “right” decisions but implemented incorrectly. This concerns the life of another person and is irreversible. I really don’t want to write more about it because it’s too personal. In any case, I then vowed that for every major decision in my life, I would try to decide as correctly as possible. Building a house is part of that.
The height of the railing has actually been the same since design number one—at 87.5cm (34.4 inches). I don’t have friends who have built new houses. And I only found out after planning the kitchen that kitchen manufacturers offer great options for designing the utility room, for example, with the washing machine on a pedestal. I had always neglected the utility room before, but since we don’t have a basement or garage, I want to make the most of the storage space. Then it just happened that I planned with the kitchen consultant, and he said that the railing height was really bad for a 91cm (35.8 inches) high countertop. Enough about that.
Current status: they would have raised the railing height for us, but we arranged the appliances in the room differently, and I got a different corner of the room to plan.
Before I become unnecessarily unpopular with the general contractor, I asked here about experiences.
And I do think I’ve benefited a lot from this thread. A few details make a difference, or sometimes just a couple of centimeters (inches), for example to keep in mind so that you can plan your cabinet systems well and don’t regret it later. I succeeded with that in the bedroom, kitchen, and wardrobe. Honestly, if I hadn’t signed up here, I wouldn’t have paid attention. That’s just one small example and isn’t meant to justify the length of the thread. This thread got so long because I got lost and was too meticulous. But I didn’t know where else to put my thoughts. Across these almost 200 pages, I have received SO many great tips on all sorts of topics—not just the floor plan. It also covered the garden, cabinet systems, tips for electrical planning, and so on.
Anyway, I still want to say that there is nowhere in the forum rules that prohibits keeping your own thread active for a long time. And where does it say you can’t open another thread for your own spotlight planning just because you went overboard in the floor plan thread? Other users also ask for help with their spotlights. Of course, I understand that you can get professional advice. But I don’t see the point. I don’t find spotlights extremely appealing. That’s why I only wanted a few in the hallway and even proposed an idea myself for how it could look. I just wanted some feedback and input. Isn’t that what the forum is for? Why have I lost my right to make such threads?
And my taste is not up for debate here. I think the kitchen turned out well. A good mix of design and functionality. But this isn’t about the kitchen, right? Why can’t I have mainstream taste? I’m not doing this for others. I just find a clean look elegant. I love my black kitchen with a Dekton ceramic countertop in marble pattern and an island with undercounter lighting and a Berbel Downline extractor. What is the problem with following trends if you like them??? I’m not doing it just because it’s popular today, but because I think it’s cool. Honestly, I didn’t even know kitchens could look this sexy nowadays.
Anyway. Thanks to everyone who gave me further input here on the last pages.
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