Hello,
we need help with doing some painting work ourselves.
For cost reasons, we want to do part of the painting work ourselves and have the other part done by a professional painter.
The process will be roughly as follows:
- We will sand the stair railing (metal with synthetic resin primer) using sandpaper around 180 grit and then paint the railing.
- We will prime all the walls ourselves (we have a primer concentrate that we will mix with water).
- The painter will fill, sand, and paint all the ceilings white.
- The painter will wallpaper all the walls with textured wallpaper (we simply cannot wallpaper ourselves).
- Afterwards, we will paint all the walls in the color we want.
What materials do we need?
Stair railing:
Sandpaper about 180 grit
Paint roller
Paintbrush
Paint tray
What kind of metal protection paint would you recommend (the metal protective paint may contain solvents)?
Priming:
What is the best way to apply the primer? I have seen several methods online:
1. Only with a ceiling brush (moisten just the tip and apply to the wall or ceiling).
2. Using a pressure sprayer (e.g., Gloria), spray onto the wall and then work it in with a roller.
Roller with extension pole?
Ceiling brush?
Gloria sprayer?
Painting walls:
Painter’s tape (e.g., Tesa painter’s tape 38mm (1.5 inches)?)
Paint roller with extension pole
Brush for the edges
Paint grid
Which interior paints would you recommend that have good quality and are easy to work with?
What should we look for in rollers and brushes to recognize good quality?
Thank you very much for your help.
we need help with doing some painting work ourselves.
For cost reasons, we want to do part of the painting work ourselves and have the other part done by a professional painter.
The process will be roughly as follows:
- We will sand the stair railing (metal with synthetic resin primer) using sandpaper around 180 grit and then paint the railing.
- We will prime all the walls ourselves (we have a primer concentrate that we will mix with water).
- The painter will fill, sand, and paint all the ceilings white.
- The painter will wallpaper all the walls with textured wallpaper (we simply cannot wallpaper ourselves).
- Afterwards, we will paint all the walls in the color we want.
What materials do we need?
Stair railing:
Sandpaper about 180 grit
Paint roller
Paintbrush
Paint tray
What kind of metal protection paint would you recommend (the metal protective paint may contain solvents)?
Priming:
What is the best way to apply the primer? I have seen several methods online:
1. Only with a ceiling brush (moisten just the tip and apply to the wall or ceiling).
2. Using a pressure sprayer (e.g., Gloria), spray onto the wall and then work it in with a roller.
Roller with extension pole?
Ceiling brush?
Gloria sprayer?
Painting walls:
Painter’s tape (e.g., Tesa painter’s tape 38mm (1.5 inches)?)
Paint roller with extension pole
Brush for the edges
Paint grid
Which interior paints would you recommend that have good quality and are easy to work with?
What should we look for in rollers and brushes to recognize good quality?
Thank you very much for your help.
Tolentino schrieb:
You can even have any paint tinted at the hardware store. This should also work with Alpina. I don’t have any experience with pre-packaged colored paints for comparison. Okay, how can I recognize a good paint?
Opacity at least 1
Wet abrasion resistance class at least 2?
Or what specifications should a good emulsion paint have?
Apparently, it’s not that important to focus on paint quality because most are usually good, or am I misunderstanding this?
I thought we should rely on a brand-name paint.
ypg schrieb:
I don’t see a problem with the staircase since it’s well-primed and you sand it afterwards. The better the substrate, the easier it is for the paint to bond with it. I find it difficult to choose a good interior paint that will really last for the coming years.
How can you recognize good paint for interior use (most are for exterior)?
Is it also not important to choose a brand-name product when it comes to paint?
For both paint and varnish, it is important to me that the products are easy to apply and of good quality to ensure durability.
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allstar839 Mar 2023 15:07Why do you actually want to wallpaper the walls? To me, wallpaper seems a bit old-fashioned, but maybe I’m wrong.
You could possibly apply textured plaster yourself.
You could possibly apply textured plaster yourself.
In my experience, simplified scales are not particularly meaningful for consumers. Even supposedly technical data lack significance if the measurement methods are not standardized.
Therefore, my recommendations are based solely on my personal experience and that of people I trust.
Regarding dispersion paints:
Alpina (tinted) worked well.
Obi store brand (tinted) worked well.
(Dispersion) silicate paint: Hornbach store brand worked well.
All of these were applied directly on gypsum plaster/gypsum board as well as on painter’s fleece (smooth fleece).
We also tried the silicate paint directly on concrete. The coverage was not good there, but we did not apply a primer beforehand.
Lime paint: Alpenkalk was a disaster regardless of the substrate. Painter’s fleece worked best, followed by gypsum board. Direct application on gypsum plaster was the worst.
Therefore, my recommendations are based solely on my personal experience and that of people I trust.
Regarding dispersion paints:
Alpina (tinted) worked well.
Obi store brand (tinted) worked well.
(Dispersion) silicate paint: Hornbach store brand worked well.
All of these were applied directly on gypsum plaster/gypsum board as well as on painter’s fleece (smooth fleece).
We also tried the silicate paint directly on concrete. The coverage was not good there, but we did not apply a primer beforehand.
Lime paint: Alpenkalk was a disaster regardless of the substrate. Painter’s fleece worked best, followed by gypsum board. Direct application on gypsum plaster was the worst.
allstar83 schrieb:
Why do you actually want to wallpaper the walls? Wallpaper seems a bit old-fashioned to me, but maybe I’m wrong.
You could probably apply textured paint yourselves. We don’t really like textured paint; the texture feels terrible. Textured paint is usually quite rough (at least from two brands we know). If you accidentally scrape your elbow against it, you can easily scrape off a piece of skin that then gets stuck in the textured paint. (Of course, you don’t brush against it often, but for example, it can happen in a hallway.)
Also, textured paint is a nightmare to remove if you ever want to take it off.
We like the “Raufaser 40” from Erfurt quite a bit. It’s affordable and can be repainted several times without issues.
The paint from Obi often gets many negative reviews (Alpina also has its share of negative reviews, but overall many more positive ones).
If dirt gets on the wall, we would like to be able to wipe it off with a damp cloth. (So a good scrub resistance rating is important.)
Do you always have your paint mixed, or do you buy it pre-mixed?
What happens if I have paint mixed and then realize the bucket isn’t enough, and the next day I have the same color mixed again?
Can you tell the difference, or can they mix it exactly the same?
Pre-mixed paints are more consistent, right?
Taitv789 schrieb:
There are often negative reviews for the Obi paint (Alpina also has some negatives but many more positives) [Irony on]: Ah, so you trust some anonymous review more than my pseudonymous experience! Then go to Netto! [Irony off]
Taitv789 schrieb:
If dirt gets on the wall, we would like to be able to wipe it off with a damp cloth. I think it depends more on the type of dirt. I haven’t tried everything yet, but you can easily remove "normal dirt" for now (mostly drilling dust at the moment). If there’s something I can’t remove, I would simply paint over it.
Taitv789 schrieb:
Did you always have your paints mixed or did you buy them pre-mixed? Had the colored ones mixed.
Taitv789 schrieb:
What does it look like if I have a paint mixed and then realize the bucket isn’t enough, so I have the same color mixed again the next day?
Can you tell the difference, or can they match it exactly? If you pick a color from the color chart, it has a code and should always be the same. We only did that once with a color and it worked fine.
Taitv789 schrieb:
Ready-mixed paints are more accurate, right? No idea (=experience). I don’t think so. In production or at the DIY store or dealer, it’s done by a machine anyway.
Taitv789 schrieb:
Can you tell the difference or can they mix exactly the same? It doesn’t always match perfectly. It also depends on the nuances and amount of color pigment.
But since a room has at least four walls, and they all look different anyway due to the light falling on them, there is only one rule: one wall, one paint can.
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