ᐅ Costs of a Bathroom Renovation Including Minor Layout Changes
Created on: 16 Jan 2020 15:52
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Hello dear forum members,
I want to renovate the bathroom in my apartment from the 1960s.
As was common back then, the bathroom is very small (about 3.5m² (38 sq ft)) and unfortunately equipped with a combined mini bathtub and shower. I would like to replace this with a shower. Since all the connections and drains are located on one side, the layout is quite inconvenient given the small size (room depth only 2m (6.5 ft)), with the toilet and sink positioned next to each other. You would gain a lot more space for the shower (across the entire width) if the sink could be moved to the opposite side. Of course, this would require major renovations, meaning changes to the drainage and water supply.
I understand that a bathroom is a significant cost factor, but the prices I have encountered here in Berlin, where I live, have really been surprising. So far, I have contacted three companies, and all of them told me to budget €15,000 (!!) if I want to avoid any surprises. This sounds like an extremely high amount to me — the bathroom measures only 2m (6.5 ft) deep, 1.7m (5.6 ft) wide, and 2.7m (8.9 ft) high.
I have very little experience with this and wanted to ask here if such prices are typical.
Thanks in advance.
I want to renovate the bathroom in my apartment from the 1960s.
As was common back then, the bathroom is very small (about 3.5m² (38 sq ft)) and unfortunately equipped with a combined mini bathtub and shower. I would like to replace this with a shower. Since all the connections and drains are located on one side, the layout is quite inconvenient given the small size (room depth only 2m (6.5 ft)), with the toilet and sink positioned next to each other. You would gain a lot more space for the shower (across the entire width) if the sink could be moved to the opposite side. Of course, this would require major renovations, meaning changes to the drainage and water supply.
I understand that a bathroom is a significant cost factor, but the prices I have encountered here in Berlin, where I live, have really been surprising. So far, I have contacted three companies, and all of them told me to budget €15,000 (!!) if I want to avoid any surprises. This sounds like an extremely high amount to me — the bathroom measures only 2m (6.5 ft) deep, 1.7m (5.6 ft) wide, and 2.7m (8.9 ft) high.
I have very little experience with this and wanted to ask here if such prices are typical.
Thanks in advance.
Farilo schrieb:
15,000 for such a small bathroom... Plus toilet prices over 800€.
Calm down a bit.
@Te: You can probably do the gutting yourself over the weekend. Once everything is gutted and cleaned, hire a plumber/tiler from MyHammer. If you want, beforehand you can chisel channels for the pipes with a rotary hammer where you want them.
That’s exactly how I renovated my small bathroom last year.
Total cost including a shower partition at 150cm (59 inches) height, branded toilet bowl with soft-close and extra coating, walk-in shower, washbasin, radiator, tiler: 5,000
But you should do the gutting and debris removal yourself. It’s simple and only costs about 50€ for a trash bag including curbside pickup.
Sure, you can also spend 30,000! Or even 50,000...
But you don’t have to. I didn’t say anything different... You just have to read carefully. By the way, I removed 1.5 tons of rubble from my 5m² (54 ft²) bathroom. Measured by weight, mind you. For example, the walls were tiled twice, including the mortar bed.
And yes, plumbers often charge prices for sanitary equipment that are 300% higher. Platforms like MyHammer and similar are the ones left over and not busy with new builds.
That’s where you can save.
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nordanney17 Jan 2020 21:39Joedreck schrieb:
Please allow me to accompany a company during a renovation once.I have been doing this with clients and for my own properties for over 20 years. Therefore, I have more than enough experience.S
SO InnenausbAU18 Aug 2025 16:32Hello,
With such a small bathroom, it is normal for the costs to still be relatively high, especially when major renovations are planned. Installing water supply and drainage pipes, redesigning the shower, sink, and toilet, as well as tiling work, significantly increase the expenses. Even in a city like Berlin, labor and material prices have a strong impact.
Typical cost factors in a bathroom renovation include room size, extent of the remodeling, type of shower or bathtub, plumbing work, tiles and flooring, sanitary fixtures, and electrical installations. The effort increases considerably if connections need to be relocated.
You will get a realistic idea by comparing common price ranges and influencing factors for bathroom renovations. This helps you better assess whether the quotes are within the usual range or if you should consider alternatives. For small bathrooms undergoing extensive renovations, costs around 12,000–15,000 euros (approximately $13,000–16,300) are quite common—especially when using high-quality materials or in urban areas.
Summary: Your estimate aligns with what can be expected for a renovation involving plumbing changes and a complete refit. To save costs, you might consider limiting the renovations to a minimum or carrying out some tasks yourself.
Best regards
With such a small bathroom, it is normal for the costs to still be relatively high, especially when major renovations are planned. Installing water supply and drainage pipes, redesigning the shower, sink, and toilet, as well as tiling work, significantly increase the expenses. Even in a city like Berlin, labor and material prices have a strong impact.
Typical cost factors in a bathroom renovation include room size, extent of the remodeling, type of shower or bathtub, plumbing work, tiles and flooring, sanitary fixtures, and electrical installations. The effort increases considerably if connections need to be relocated.
You will get a realistic idea by comparing common price ranges and influencing factors for bathroom renovations. This helps you better assess whether the quotes are within the usual range or if you should consider alternatives. For small bathrooms undergoing extensive renovations, costs around 12,000–15,000 euros (approximately $13,000–16,300) are quite common—especially when using high-quality materials or in urban areas.
Summary: Your estimate aligns with what can be expected for a renovation involving plumbing changes and a complete refit. To save costs, you might consider limiting the renovations to a minimum or carrying out some tasks yourself.
Best regards
SO InnenausbAU schrieb:
Conclusion: Your estimate matches that,Tell me, what is the point of digging up a thread that is over 5 years old? Is this how you go through all the forums now?H
hanghaus202319 Aug 2025 10:02ypg schrieb:
Hey, what’s the deal with reviving a thread that’s over 5 years old? Do you go through all forums like this now? Thanks. I was just about to ask for a plan. I thought this was current???
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