ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, slight hillside location, northwest orientation

Created on: 23 May 2025 18:30
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kronos215
Hello everyone,

We have almost finalized our planning with the architect and would appreciate you taking a critical look at the floor plan. Afterwards, we plan to proceed with the tendering process.

We generally like the ground floor (GF) very much. However, we are considering flipping the house and making some changes to the upper floor (UF). The garage, utility room, and technical room would move to the right, and the entire house would be shifted closer to the neighbor’s hedge on the left side (3m (10 feet) distance). The living room would then be on the left. It’s unclear whether the view of the neighbor’s hedge at a 3m (10 feet) distance will be nicer. On the positive side, the house would be better oriented towards the south and would let in more sunlight. The kitchen would then be on the right, providing wind protection from the open field while still allowing sunlight to reach the terrace.

Corner plot, one neighbor on the left, fields to the back and right
Ground floor area: 99m2 (without terrace), garage 30m2
Upper floor area: 78m2 (from 1.5m (5 feet))

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
approx. 750m2

Slope
Yes, uphill on the mountain side. There is a manhole cover on the street in front of the plot and one behind it. The elevation difference between the covers is about 3m. The plot initially rises about 1m (3 feet) above the sidewalk and

Edge development
Yes, it’s a corner plot. There is a neighbor on the left side. Behind the house and to the right is a field path and fields.

Number of parking spaces
The adjacent street should provide sufficient parking spaces. A garage is also planned.

Number of stories
According to the development plan, 1.5-story houses are permitted.

Roof type
According to the development plan, only gable roofs are allowed.

Orientation
Northwest

Maximum heights / limits
According to the development plan, the house must be built exactly in this alignment

Requirements of the homeowners
Style, roof shape, building type
Country house style, gable roof (eaves facing the street), single-family home

Basement, number of floors
A basement was initially planned but was dropped due to budget. 1.5 floors are allowed and planned as per the development plan.

Number of occupants, age
Two adults, early 30s, no children yet but a child’s room is planned

Space requirements on GF, UF
GF: Garage, entrance hall, office 1, kitchen, living room, dining room, pantry, technical room, utility room, guest bathroom with shower
UF: Bedroom, child’s room, office 2, bathroom, storage room (planned due to no basement)

Office: family use or home office?
Both offices are currently needed for work.

Overnight guests per year
Very rarely or none

According to the development plan, 1.5-story houses are allowed
Somewhat open

Conservative or modern construction
Modern (?)

Open kitchen, cooking island
Open kitchen planned, cooking island desired but dropped due to space constraints

Number of dining seats
6, preferably expandable to 10

Fireplace
Desired and planned as a partition between dining and living room

Music / stereo wall
Desired; a niche in the living room works well for this

Balcony, roof terrace
Desired but dropped for budget reasons

Garage, carport
Planned; it is questionable whether the garage should instead be located on the right to avoid blocking the south side.

House design
Who is responsible for the design?
Architect

What do you particularly like? Why?
The open living and dining area. The open view of the fields.
The dormer on the upper floor.

What do you dislike? Why?
The corridor on the upper floor feels dark. Many skylights are planned (knee wall 80cm (31 inches) per development plan, gable roof with eaves facing the street).
The ground floor might also be dark. The garage is located on the south side. The windows facing the fields are towards the northeast.
Skylights block the option for photovoltaic panels and the attic space.
The storage room feels out of place.
Since a basement was initially planned, a hobby room was also considered, but this has been dropped.
The master bed is directly adjacent to the child’s room, but the bedroom must remain there.

Price estimate according to architect:
€540,000 (we find this optimistic; we expect higher costs and would thus like to make the floor plan more compact)

Personal price limit for house including fixtures and fittings:
€550,000 (all-in)

Preferred heating technology:
Heat pump

If you had to give up something, which details / expansions
-you could give up: a two-story open space was planned but removed, storage room on the upper floor (is it really necessary?), the GF could generally be smaller to save costs
-you cannot give up: large windows on the GF, open living-dining area, access to the house via garage and utility room, fireplace, pantry

Why has the design turned out this way?E.g.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? The architect implemented the room concept well and incorporated many of his own ideas that we mostly find coherent.
What do you consider particularly good or bad about it? We like the ground floor very much; there is still potential for changes on the upper floor. We would also like another dormer above the entrance door, but this does not seem possible due to the development plan (the upper floor would become a full story if too much area is covered by dormers). The study could then be where the storage room currently is. The storage room could become a combined storage and hobby room.

We are grateful for any input and suggestions. We are particularly concerned about the south orientation. We do not want the rooms to become too dark.

Upper floor plan: bedroom, child’s room, study, bathroom, corridor, and terrace.

Architectural cross-section of the house: ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF) with gable roof.

Ground floor plan of a house with kitchen, living room, and garage
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kronos215
25 May 2025 19:53
kbt09 schrieb:

And you don’t constantly look out of the bedroom window anyway. By the way, with a knee wall height of 80 cm (31 inches), you can also nicely look out of a suitable roof window.
That’s a good point. I looked at some pictures, and indeed, at this height it’s not just a roof window showing a bit of blue (in Germany more often gray) sky.
ypg schrieb:

He would prefer to have all the windows facing north.
My concern is more that the nice south side would be very close to the neighbor. At least that’s the idea that stuck with me. More on that later.
wiltshire schrieb:

I recognize a house in the first draft that I could live in. That’s a subjective statement.
Opinions seem to differ, and I think that speaks well for the architectural design. In the end, it’s a subjective feeling which draft works better.
kbt09 schrieb:

As can be seen in principle, the layout by @ypg in post 22 and my adaptation of one standard floor plan in post 40 share some features.
That’s true; I looked at both in detail and developed my own version. I have uploaded it as an attachment. The dimensions should roughly fit. It’s my first draft and a mix of everything kindly shared here or what I could contribute.
ypg schrieb:

It’s hard to believe that the neighbors spend lasting time in the 3 to 4 meter (10 to 13 feet) distance to the property line in summer, especially since they have a very nice plot to relax on. You can talk yourself into a lot of things..
The neighbors do have a nice, large garden, but the terrace is very close to the hedge and is probably where they spend most of their time.
ypg schrieb:

Because you have a limited point of view?
Unfortunately, I do. I’m trying to be open to ideas.
ypg schrieb:

If you still keep thinking north, ask the architect for a new upper floor. Although by now you don’t seem to like the exterior view anymore either. There isn’t much left to like then.
To be honest, I only like the exterior because of the upper floor. The "setback" of the upper floor doesn’t look very nice and is probably expensive as well.

My concern with a house fully oriented to the south is that the distance between the hedge and the house is very small (4 m / 13 feet) and could feel like a kind of cramped “corridor.” That’s why I’m constantly trying to open up towards the top of the plan, where most of the garden is located.
I had some time today and developed my own ground floor design. The garage is now on the right and also wider (we wanted space for two cars anyway, maybe there’s room for a hobby area further back).
The office is now on the south side because we want to orient the living and dining areas towards the garden. We also spend a lot of time working from home, so some sun is definitely a plus. It certainly has many weaknesses, but my goal is rather to show what I imagine. I think this way enough light comes into the rooms from the southwest; from the dining area and living room you still enjoy a nice view to the right or top of the plan. From the sofa, it should be nice to look out over the field, so I didn’t want to lose that view. Still, in this room configuration, it wouldn’t be dark anymore. A kitchen island could also be implemented like this.
Floor plan of a house: Open living and dining area with dining table, kitchen, sofa and stairs.
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ypg
25 May 2025 20:25
kronos215 schrieb:

My concern is with a complete south-facing orientation,

Well, no one here is advising you to go for a fully south-facing orientation!
kronos215 schrieb:

that the distance between the hedge and the house is very small (4m)

For me, the distance is 5 or 8 meters (16 or 26 feet) ..
kronos215 schrieb:

The garage is now on the right and is also wider

Of course, if you suddenly make the garage so wide that it leaves very little space between you and your neighbor, I don’t understand that.
The solution would be to shift the house more to the right according to the plan. Also, the upper floor would benefit from the roof orientation, since you gain more living space by having a deeper house rather than a wider one.
Regarding your design:
kronos215 schrieb:

It certainly has many weaknesses

That’s true. The staircase is (again) a disaster: it leads out close to the sloping roof, which will negatively impact the usable space on the north side. It is also too short.
A nearly square room for kitchen and dining is difficult to furnish if the kitchen is to be sufficiently spacious. Here it is not.
kronos215 schrieb:

The office is now in the south, because we want to orient the living and dining areas towards the garden. We also spend (a lot) of time working from home, so some sunlight is not a bad thing.

That sounds a bit contradictory.
Basically, you end up almost exactly with a standard contractor’s design. Except that you placed the staircase where it doesn’t work. The chill-out area isn’t really serious, is it? That’s not 2.8 meters (9 feet) of wall space for a sofa. I mean: you even measured it.. what makes you want to leave it like that?
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kbt09
25 May 2025 21:12
I agree with @ypg and would add that kitchen units with widths of 300 cm (10 feet), which also must include a hidden pantry passage, lack ergonomics. Pantries with a depth of only 100 cm (40 inches) cannot even fit a freezer along the long wall because the door won’t open.

As you can see from @ypg’s comments about the stairs, the upper floor also needs to be considered during planning—according to [USER=32750]@11ant, even before the ground floor.

Something else I noticed: you mentioned that only a gable roof is allowed, but your neighbor has a hip roof.

Satellitenbild eines Grundstücks mit gelben und orangen Linien; roter Kreis markiert die Kreuzung.
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ypg
25 May 2025 21:38
kronos215 schrieb:

The neighbors do have a nice large garden, but the terrace is very close to the hedge and is probably the place where people will spend most of their time.
That might be due to the fact that it’s a semi-detached house.
kbt09 schrieb:

What I also noticed was that you said only gable roofs are allowed… but your neighbor has a hip roof.
Oops. I don’t think that will play a big role here. However, other incorrect interpretations might make the planning process difficult.
kronos215 schrieb:

I think this way there is enough light coming into the rooms from the southwest,
Thanks @kbt09 for the aerial photo. It reminds me that the confusing orange circle does not indicate south, but rather the approximate spot where the sun sets roughly from west to west. Behind the neighbors. That’s why it won’t be very sunny inside the house from west to west.
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kronos215
25 May 2025 21:52
ypg schrieb:

If you suddenly make the garage so wide that it becomes tight between you and the neighbor, then I don’t understand that.
The lever would be to shift the house more to the right on the plan. Also, the upper floor would benefit from the roof orientation, since you gain more living space with a deeper rather than wider house.

Thank you, that’s true. I compressed the house a bit. Unfortunately, the sight lines get somewhat lost, but the layout feels more balanced.
kbt09 schrieb:

And pantry rooms that, at most, have 100cm (40 inches) depth cannot even accommodate a freezer along the long wall because then the door cannot be opened.

I have enlarged the pantry.
ypg schrieb:

Thanks @kbt09 for the aerial photo. It reminds me that the confusing orange circle doesn’t show south but rather approximately the point where the sun sets from east to west, roughly speaking. Behind the neighbors. That’s why it won’t be sunny from east to west inside the house.

The sunset is the red line (top of the plan), the orange circle shows the current sun position at the moment I took the screenshot, the oval line illustrates the sun’s path, and the yellow line represents the sun rays.

I have made adjustments and taken your input into account, including the staircase. The house could still be moved further right to the edge of the plot and would then have about 7m (23 feet) distance to the neighbor. I can imagine creating an open space (void) above the living room on the upper floor on the right side of the plan. Just an idea that came to me.
Floor plan of a house: kitchen and dining area left, living room right, staircase in the middle, bathroom below.
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kbt09
25 May 2025 22:25
The staircase exit on the upper floor is still dangerously close to the 2m (6 ft 7 in) limit, as the upper floor has not yet been planned.

The open space above the living room ... is rather uncomfortable.

The sun path shown is for now. Try it for winter, when the sun sets about 90° further forward.