ᐅ Realistic Cost Estimate: Single-Family Home with Challenging Site Access
Created on: 20 Jan 2023 10:50
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schmeissrein
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
xMisterDx schrieb:
Enlighten me on the advantages of a living room with a ceiling height of 2.8 to 3.4 meters (9 to 11 feet). This probably makes a difference regarding the interaction between air circulation and the phases of heating by both the heating system and solar radiation. This was explained in a documentary about test buildings at a university researching new construction methods. However, I’m not a physics lecturer who could explain this in detail. In taller rooms, warm air rises to the ceiling for a longer time. The subsequent rewarming and day-night temperature cycle then likely align better than with the more modern ceiling heights, which I personally consider practical otherwise.
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xMisterDx schrieb:
Enlighten me on the advantages of a 2.8–3.4m (9.2–11.2 ft) high living room.For small rooms, I find 2.4m (7.9 ft) acceptable. In a large open-plan area, however, 2.4m (7.9 ft) can feel a bit cramped.
Of course, everyone can choose as they wish, but one should be aware of the final ceiling height. A floor-to-ceiling height of 2.8m (9.2 ft) sounds great, but roughly 20cm (8 inches) are taken up by the ceiling structure and another 15–20cm (6–8 inches) by the screed with insulation.
11ant schrieb:
That probably makes a difference regarding how air movement interacts with the heating phases and solar radiation. Our open-plan room is almost 5m (16 feet) high, so the reactions to solar radiation and heating are slower. It is very comfortable down where people are, and upstairs there are rarely people, and it’s also warmer there.
If it does get too warm down below, we can tilt open the skylights, and that works well.
hanse987 schrieb:
Only about 20cm (8 inches) for the ceiling and 15-20cm (6-8 inches) for the screed with insulation are lost.I find the insulation between floors in a single-family house excessive.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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WilderSueden22 May 2023 21:3411ant schrieb:
I think the insulation between floors in a single-family home is crazy.That said, the difference between 10cm (4 inches) and 6cm (2.4 inches) of insulation isn’t critical. Either you want a 2.80m (9 ft 2 in) ceiling height, then you have to build higher accordingly and be allowed to do so. Or you choose a standard ceiling height.11ant schrieb:
I think the insulation between the floors in a single-family house is crazy.Why between the floors? I am talking about the ground floor, and if I remember correctly, there is no basement.
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