Hello,
We are planning to have a bungalow built.
I would appreciate any feedback or suggestions for improvement.
We are planning to have a bungalow built.
I would appreciate any feedback or suggestions for improvement.
W
Wanderdüne7 May 2014 18:49aytex schrieb:
...it’s okay to communicate sometimes...You missed yet another chance to make your first meaningful contribution on the topic. I’m no longer expecting it...
@ypg
I liked your play on words!
Wanderdüne
@all: Let’s all keep in mind why this house building forum was created... certainly not to serve as a platform for building enthusiasts detached from any reality. I turned to this forum hoping for some constructive criticism, but unfortunately, that was probably an overly optimistic expectation.
You can’t expect forum members to provide a perfect architectural design tailored exactly to your wishes...
A design always needs to reflect the family’s circumstances, and you should also remember that ordinary people are not millionaires; the budget naturally limits ideas and wishes.
Now to the questions: The house is oriented southwest with the terrace facing that direction, and the plot is about 1200m² (13,000 square feet), located on the second row in a rural area.
All three children’s bedrooms are needed; we are already giving up the office.
The toilet is intended as a second bathroom for five people and as a guest restroom. I think it would be excessive to equip the children with a fancy bathroom. This is neither practical nor conducive to instilling an appropriate sense of value in the kids.
As a family, we do not find it desirable to divide the home into public and private zones, since all spaces belonging to the family should be used by the family. Everyone has their own private space in their bedrooms; anything else would be a luxury...
Later on, when the children no longer live at home, the children’s rooms and the guest bathroom could be separated from the rest of the house and possibly used as a practice or office space, which is why the children’s area is entirely on one side.
The hallway was deliberately designed this way because it matches our current apartment and we find it adequate. For additional daylight, glass panels in the doors can be used. The hallway is purely a passage area, not living space.
Regarding the kitchen, we deliberately chose a closed room because we cook, bake, and craft a lot, and only eat in the kitchen. The dining area in the living room is meant only for guests to eat, and mostly serves as our game table, so there are no long walks to eat...
In my opinion, a pantry is most functional directly adjoining the kitchen—where else would a pantry make sense? It is intended solely for storing food such as potatoes, onions, apples, and preserved goods. We do not want to cure sausages or store bread there. Storing such items in kitchen cupboards has taken up lots of space and has been impractical, but with 2.22m² (24 square feet), it fits nicely, keeping kitchen cupboards clean and available for storage, and the dining table is located nearby.
The dressing room is not really meant as a "dressing room" but serves to hide the wardrobe. I want only the bed in the bedroom and no additional cabinets. Regarding the complaint that sleeping is disturbed—what are people supposed to do in a 3-room apartment? So again, a minor luxury problem, right?
The utility room is intentionally located near the entrance hallway so that contractors don’t have to be let into the main house first. A door to the outside would spoil the exterior appearance, so that was a conscious choice as well.
Now to the living room: 35m² (375 square feet) are perfectly sufficient for a living room; opposing claims again seem like a luxury concern... The three windows provide enough daylight, and only space for two sideboards is needed—we are not fans of cabinets.
So, maybe some things are easier to understand now...
Besides, this is not a prefab house design but a custom one... and the wife still works despite the three children—people from eastern Germany are just like that...
If anyone can now offer constructive feedback, I would be grateful. For the future of this forum, I hope for a bit more politeness and realism. For questions, please address them directly to the poster. For five people, the space might not be particularly generous, but each child has their own room, there is a garden, and time, space, and money for shared activities. It wouldn’t be that way if someone took on oversized requests for space and generosity and then couldn’t afford the payments. Then comes the time when the kids leave the nest and you have a huge house to manage—who wants that?
Sorry, but that had to be said....
You can’t expect forum members to provide a perfect architectural design tailored exactly to your wishes...
A design always needs to reflect the family’s circumstances, and you should also remember that ordinary people are not millionaires; the budget naturally limits ideas and wishes.
Now to the questions: The house is oriented southwest with the terrace facing that direction, and the plot is about 1200m² (13,000 square feet), located on the second row in a rural area.
All three children’s bedrooms are needed; we are already giving up the office.
The toilet is intended as a second bathroom for five people and as a guest restroom. I think it would be excessive to equip the children with a fancy bathroom. This is neither practical nor conducive to instilling an appropriate sense of value in the kids.
As a family, we do not find it desirable to divide the home into public and private zones, since all spaces belonging to the family should be used by the family. Everyone has their own private space in their bedrooms; anything else would be a luxury...
Later on, when the children no longer live at home, the children’s rooms and the guest bathroom could be separated from the rest of the house and possibly used as a practice or office space, which is why the children’s area is entirely on one side.
The hallway was deliberately designed this way because it matches our current apartment and we find it adequate. For additional daylight, glass panels in the doors can be used. The hallway is purely a passage area, not living space.
Regarding the kitchen, we deliberately chose a closed room because we cook, bake, and craft a lot, and only eat in the kitchen. The dining area in the living room is meant only for guests to eat, and mostly serves as our game table, so there are no long walks to eat...
In my opinion, a pantry is most functional directly adjoining the kitchen—where else would a pantry make sense? It is intended solely for storing food such as potatoes, onions, apples, and preserved goods. We do not want to cure sausages or store bread there. Storing such items in kitchen cupboards has taken up lots of space and has been impractical, but with 2.22m² (24 square feet), it fits nicely, keeping kitchen cupboards clean and available for storage, and the dining table is located nearby.
The dressing room is not really meant as a "dressing room" but serves to hide the wardrobe. I want only the bed in the bedroom and no additional cabinets. Regarding the complaint that sleeping is disturbed—what are people supposed to do in a 3-room apartment? So again, a minor luxury problem, right?
The utility room is intentionally located near the entrance hallway so that contractors don’t have to be let into the main house first. A door to the outside would spoil the exterior appearance, so that was a conscious choice as well.
Now to the living room: 35m² (375 square feet) are perfectly sufficient for a living room; opposing claims again seem like a luxury concern... The three windows provide enough daylight, and only space for two sideboards is needed—we are not fans of cabinets.
So, maybe some things are easier to understand now...
Besides, this is not a prefab house design but a custom one... and the wife still works despite the three children—people from eastern Germany are just like that...
If anyone can now offer constructive feedback, I would be grateful. For the future of this forum, I hope for a bit more politeness and realism. For questions, please address them directly to the poster. For five people, the space might not be particularly generous, but each child has their own room, there is a garden, and time, space, and money for shared activities. It wouldn’t be that way if someone took on oversized requests for space and generosity and then couldn’t afford the payments. Then comes the time when the kids leave the nest and you have a huge house to manage—who wants that?
Sorry, but that had to be said....
faja283 schrieb:
@all: Please keep in mind why this house-building forum was created... definitely not to provide a platform for homebuilders detached from reality. I came to this forum hoping to receive some constructive criticism, but unfortunately, that was probably an unrealistic expectation.
You can’t expect forum members to deliver a perfect architect’s design exactly matching your ideas...
The design always has to consider the family’s specific circumstances, and you should also remember that most people are not millionaires—budgets naturally limit ideas and wishes.
Now to the questions: The house is oriented southwest with the terrace, and the plot is about 1200sqm (12,917 sq ft) in size, located in the second row in a rural area.
All three children’s rooms are needed as such; we’ve already decided to give up the office.
The second toilet is intended as an additional bathroom for five people and as a guest toilet. I think it would be excessive to create a luxurious bathroom specifically for the kids. That’s neither practical nor helpful in developing an appropriate sense of values in the children.
As a family, we also do not want a division between public and private zones, since everything that belongs to the family should be used by the whole family. Private space is available in each child’s own room; anything else would be a luxury...
At a later stage, when the children have moved out, the children’s rooms and guest WC might be separated from the rest of the house for use as a practice or office space—that’s why the children’s area is entirely on one side of the house.
The hallway was deliberately designed as it matches our current apartment’s layout, which we find sufficient. For additional natural light, glass panels in the doors can be used. The hallway is purely a passageway, not a living area.
Regarding the kitchen, we deliberately chose a separate room because we cook, bake, and do crafts a lot, and we eat exclusively in the kitchen. The dining area in the living room is only for guests to eat, and it’s mainly intended as our play table area—so no long trips to eat...
In my opinion, a pantry is most practical when located near the kitchen—where else would it make sense? It will store exclusively food items like potatoes, onions, apples, and preserves; we do not plan to cure meats or store bread there... Storing these items in kitchen cabinets always took up lots of space and was impractical. But 2.22sqm (24 sq ft) is enough to manage this well; the cupboards stay clean and available for storage, and the dining table is very close by.
The walk-in closet is not intended as a “walk-in closet,” but rather to hide the wardrobe. I want the bedroom to contain only the bed in the future, without additional cabinets. Regarding concerns about disturbing the person sleeping, I ask, what do people in three-room apartments do? So once again, a little luxury problem, right?
The utility room is deliberately placed in the entrance area so that tradespeople don’t have to access the main part of the house; an external door there would spoil the exterior appearance, so that was a conscious decision too.
As for the living room, 35sqm (377 sq ft) is absolutely sufficient—claims otherwise seem like another luxury problem... The three windows bring in enough daylight, and only space for two sideboards is needed; we are not fans of large cabinets.
Hopefully, some things are easier to understand now...
Furthermore, this is not a prefab house design but a custom design... and despite having three children, the wife still works—the people from the former East Germany are just like that...
If anyone can still offer constructive contributions, I would be grateful, and for the future of this forum, I hope for a bit more politeness and realistic expectations. Questions should be directed to the original poster. The space might not be very generous for five people, but each child has their own room, and there is a garden, room, time, and money for shared activities. That wouldn’t be the case if you overextend your space and generosity wishes and then can’t pay the installments. Eventually, the kids leave the nest, and then you have a huge house to maintain—who wants that?
Sorry, but this needed to be said....There is hardly anything to add to that, well said! :-)
B
Bauexperte8 May 2014 10:54Hello,
Best regards, Bauexperte
faja283 schrieb:I can understand your frustration to some extent. However, with only 3! posts of your own, holding all members collectively responsible because of one user who is currently playful and sometimes provocative goes a bit too far for me. The majority of the guys and girls here who are interested in interior design invest a lot of time commenting on the posted floor plans. You have just dismissed them—please keep this in mind for your future wording 😉
... and for the future of this forum, I would like to see a bit more politeness and realism.
Best regards, Bauexperte
You are right again. Now everything is back to square one, and it’s time to think constructively again. Maybe someone still has a good idea. Perhaps someone can suggest an alternative floor plan, though 155 sqm (1,670 sq ft) is the upper limit...
The requirements that need to be met are already known...
The requirements that need to be met are already known...
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