ᐅ Floor plan and elevations of a single-family house with approximately 1,700 sq ft on a sloped site
Created on: 6 Dec 2022 21:01
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Karl-Jupp
Dear forum members, today we would like to present our floor plan and hope for positive feedback and suggestions on possible improvements. Our basic wish is for a bright house with 4 bedrooms on the upper floor and a living-level basement designed to accommodate 2 offices. We see the basement as necessary, especially due to the sloping site. The ground floor will then provide a spacious living and kitchen area. We have now received the first plans from the architect and would like to optimize them as much as possible with your help. The furniture layouts are only examples and still need to be finalized. Note: The room labeled as an office on the upper floor is intended to become Child 3’s bedroom. The guest room in the basement will be a combined guest/office room. The design of the outdoor areas, such as the terrace and the shape of the new property boundary, still needs to be planned in more detail.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 702 sqm (7,555 sq ft)
Slope: yes, approximately 1.7 m (5.6 ft) higher at the street than at the rear of the property
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: garage minimum 5 m (16 ft) from street, house minimum 3.5 m (11.5 ft)
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable, hip, or pyramid roof with pitch between 22° and 43°
Orientation: southwest
Owner requirements
Roof type: preferably gable roof
Basement, floors: basement yes, preferably 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages: 4 (35, 33, 4, and 2)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: preferably 3 children’s bedrooms on the upper floor
Office: 2 home office spaces desired
Guest stays per year: about 10 times per year from grandparents, hence a guest room
Conservative or modern design: rather modern, I would say
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island
Fireplace: desirable
Balcony, roof terrace: possibly convert the garage roof later into a balcony
Garage, carport: garage for 1 car with sufficient storage space for bicycles
Additional wishes/details/daily routine, including reasons for choices:
We wanted the 3 children's bedrooms and the master bedroom on the upper floor. Additionally, a small bathroom for the parents there. The basement made sense to us because of the sloping site. It should provide one dedicated office and one combined office/guest room, both with daylight windows. Additionally, a large hobby room for versatile use is desired. On the ground floor, a pantry and laundry room connected to the garage were requested. Later on, it should be possible to convert the garage roof into a terrace.
House design
Origin of the design: Architect based on our detailed requirements (see above).
What do you particularly like? Why?
Our room layout wishes have been implemented.
What do you not like? Why?
The bathrooms on the upper floor and the living area on the ground floor may be too small.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: not available yet. Probably around 650,000 - 700,000 € (including additional building costs)
Preferred heating technology: air or ground-source heat pump
If you had to give up some details/extras
- Could give up: fireplace, possibly 2nd bathroom on upper floor, walkable garage roof
- Could not give up: 4 bedrooms on upper floor, basement with 2 offices
Why is the design the way it is now?
Our basic considerations were passed on directly to the architect. He has largely implemented our specifications and added some minor touches.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
We find the existing floor plan generally well done and hope to receive constructive criticism and further suggestions from you to optimize it.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 702 sqm (7,555 sq ft)
Slope: yes, approximately 1.7 m (5.6 ft) higher at the street than at the rear of the property
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: garage minimum 5 m (16 ft) from street, house minimum 3.5 m (11.5 ft)
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable, hip, or pyramid roof with pitch between 22° and 43°
Orientation: southwest
Owner requirements
Roof type: preferably gable roof
Basement, floors: basement yes, preferably 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages: 4 (35, 33, 4, and 2)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: preferably 3 children’s bedrooms on the upper floor
Office: 2 home office spaces desired
Guest stays per year: about 10 times per year from grandparents, hence a guest room
Conservative or modern design: rather modern, I would say
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island
Fireplace: desirable
Balcony, roof terrace: possibly convert the garage roof later into a balcony
Garage, carport: garage for 1 car with sufficient storage space for bicycles
Additional wishes/details/daily routine, including reasons for choices:
We wanted the 3 children's bedrooms and the master bedroom on the upper floor. Additionally, a small bathroom for the parents there. The basement made sense to us because of the sloping site. It should provide one dedicated office and one combined office/guest room, both with daylight windows. Additionally, a large hobby room for versatile use is desired. On the ground floor, a pantry and laundry room connected to the garage were requested. Later on, it should be possible to convert the garage roof into a terrace.
House design
Origin of the design: Architect based on our detailed requirements (see above).
What do you particularly like? Why?
Our room layout wishes have been implemented.
What do you not like? Why?
The bathrooms on the upper floor and the living area on the ground floor may be too small.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: not available yet. Probably around 650,000 - 700,000 € (including additional building costs)
Preferred heating technology: air or ground-source heat pump
If you had to give up some details/extras
- Could give up: fireplace, possibly 2nd bathroom on upper floor, walkable garage roof
- Could not give up: 4 bedrooms on upper floor, basement with 2 offices
Why is the design the way it is now?
Our basic considerations were passed on directly to the architect. He has largely implemented our specifications and added some minor touches.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
We find the existing floor plan generally well done and hope to receive constructive criticism and further suggestions from you to optimize it.
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Karl-Jupp8 Dec 2022 00:14hanse987 schrieb:
Why did you decide to go with a prefabricated house? I’m curious about your reasons.Basically, it was a decision to use wood as the construction material for both the upper and ground floors. We also know many people who have built that way and were satisfied. Additionally, we can separate the interior finishing and do it ourselves, which allows us to save on general contractor and tradesmen costs. (Of course, that would also be possible with a solid construction and a general contractor.) But the overall package, especially the wooden construction, convinced us.
Karl-Jupp schrieb:
Floor coverings, bathrooms, etc. will be done as own work) Oh, look at that, here come the next 40, 50,000… you never mentioned any of that.
Karl-Jupp schrieb:
Apparently, kitchen equipment and the amount of supplies vary so much, especially if two people already need more space. No, we are actually very organized. But we do have dishes and an oven, and the usual things. What matters most is storage space next to the kitchen island and some room left over on the plot.
I will step out here. I don’t see any potential for growth in this discussion. You have to pull information out of people bit by bit like this; it’s not going to work.
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Karl-Jupp8 Dec 2022 08:24ypg schrieb:
Oh, look at that, here come the next 40, 50,000… you never mentioned those.
No, we are actually quite organized. But we do have dishes and an oven, and what you normally have. The most important thing is storage space next to the kitchen island and some space above the property.
I’m going to withdraw from this. I don’t see any potential for growth in this discussion. Here you have to pull information out of people little by little, that won’t work.Regarding the budget, I actually didn’t want to write anything more. But it’s as I mentioned above. We have quotes for a turnkey build. The garage will be added as self-performed work. We will deduct the other self-performed tasks and should stay within the indicated range. That’s the plan. Whether it actually works out that way, of course, I can’t say yet. This is just an estimate for now. We don’t have a final offer yet, have to coordinate it with the architect, and there is a lot happening currently regarding material and energy costs. That said, I want to leave it at this concerning costs and budget.
I appreciate the comments about the kitchen, and we will review them carefully. But for now, we believe the space is sufficient. We also have a friend’s kitchen as a reference for this. (Maybe we are just more minimalist than others, for example, we don’t have a coffee machine.) But as I said, thanks for the suggestions. We will reconsider them.
@ypg: Thanks for your feedback so far. It has helped us a lot.
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Sunshine3878 Dec 2022 09:15Of course, you can move into a house and have the same kitchen size as in a two-room apartment. But that is neither attractive nor practical. When two people cook together, you definitely need a bit more space, and it simply makes for a more comfortable experience. After all, you wouldn’t build just a 12m² (130 sq ft) bedroom and a 10m² (108 sq ft) children’s room simply because it is sufficient. Comfort also matters.
Turnkey price is not a final total.
Take a close look at the exact specifications, as there are usually additional costs. For example, the electrical work tends to be quite basic.
Costs for work done by the owner and items not included also need to be added.
Your landscaping, earthworks, walls, retaining structures, waste disposal, etc. are missing. This will likely add up to a large five-figure amount.
Other ancillary construction costs are still missing and are generally estimated rather conservatively by the general contractors.
I’m not sure if your current three-story design is the most cost-effective solution.
Take a close look at the exact specifications, as there are usually additional costs. For example, the electrical work tends to be quite basic.
Costs for work done by the owner and items not included also need to be added.
Your landscaping, earthworks, walls, retaining structures, waste disposal, etc. are missing. This will likely add up to a large five-figure amount.
Other ancillary construction costs are still missing and are generally estimated rather conservatively by the general contractors.
I’m not sure if your current three-story design is the most cost-effective solution.
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