Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
Plot size – approx. 1000m² (0.25 acres)
Slope – yes, about one full story along the length of the house
Number of parking spaces – 4 (2 of which are carport or garage)
Number of floors – no restrictions
Roof style – anything except flat roof
Architectural style – rural, classic
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – no Bauhaus, rather country house style
Basement, stories – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3: 37, 30, 2
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Office: family use or home office? Both fully remote: Home office is a permanent workplace for both
Occasional guests per year – 4-6?
Conservative or modern construction – conservative
Open kitchen, island – open but L-shaped, with an island
Number of dining seats – at least 8, with room for more
Fireplace – no
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
Utility garden, greenhouse – possibly, no major importance
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
- Space for a Christmas tree in the living/dining area
- “Nerd cave”: a larger hobby room for retro games, preferably without windows -> no UV exposure
- Home gym – room for at least one rack and some additional equipment
- Cooking, dining, and living areas open and arranged in a corner layout
- Pantry desired
- Cloakroom area near the entrance for jackets and shoes
- 2 children’s bedrooms plus guest room
- Parents’ bedroom with walk-in closet
- Utility/laundry room on the sleeping floor
House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why?
- All the wishes we sent over two pages of text have been perfectly incorporated
- Large, symmetrical pantry
- Very open, spacious living area
- Option to convert the gym into a second office if needed for work
- All children’s bedrooms are the same size
What don’t you like? Why?
- It is simply very large – pricing is at the upper limit of what we can afford
- Posts (presumably for structural reasons) in the living/dining area
- Office could possibly be a bit bigger, but the house is already huge
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Fixed-price turnkey offers from two providers so far likely to be in the range of 490,000–520,000 (currency not specified)
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump, central ventilation system, air conditioning
If you had to give up something, which details/expansions
- Could give up: maybe one room, open areas in the hallway
- Cannot give up: ventilation system, air conditioning, pantry, basically almost everything else 😀
Why did the design turn out the way it is? For example:
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Simply all of them. We had communicated our wishes in writing, and the design fully reflects our complete “wish list.”
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Everything we need is included; it’s large, inviting, open, bright, and leaves no wishes unfulfilled. However, the price is close to the maximum monthly financial burden we want to accept.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
My husband is completely thrilled with this floor plan, and he’s usually not so easily enthusiastic. 😀
I also find it very well done. But it’s clearly the fact that all our wishes are included that makes it great for us.
I’m just curious to hear your opinion.
Here, @Pinkiponk – I just went ahead and posted it. 🙂
kati1337 schrieb:
In my thread here, I am talking about house costs. And that seems to have been overlooked by some here!
I also haven’t seen anywhere that the additional construction costs are included in the 500k, or the kitchen, or anything else...
Everything concerning the floor plan has already been said, which I also personally noticed.
So: you know how it works, and you’ve got this!
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Benutzer20031 Mar 2022 09:45Yaso2.0 schrieb:
I haven’t seen anywhere that the additional construction costs are included in the 500k, or the kitchen, or anything else.. But you have seen that the construction costs for the entire house (220m² (2,368 sq ft) living space + 95m² (1,022 sq ft) extension) are still below €1,600 per m² (even below €1,500 per m² if additional costs are included)?
For that price, my clients don’t even manage to build social housing in the middle of nowhere.
Benutzer200 schrieb:
But you have already read that the construction costs for the entire house (220 m² (2,370 sq ft) living area + 95 m² (1,022 sq ft) extension) are still below €1,600 per m² (are the incidental building costs included, even below €1,500)?
For that price, my clients can’t even build social housing in the middle of nowhere.Or you calculate 450,000 / 220 plus 50,000 for the garage and then end up with square meter costs over 2,000.Of course, you can also count an unheated garage as living space and thus lower the square meter price enough to get really worked up about it on the internet—that’s certainly possible. Your choice. 🙂
Please clarify the points I mentioned to you. They caused us major problems because the buffer disappeared before the groundbreaking, and our friend had already used up his buffer when he realized I have a huge pile of excavation soil in the garden that somehow needs to be removed.
If you reduce the hallway, make sure the entrance area is not completely lost. The open and spacious feeling there is good. The view from the delivery person goes straight to the window facing the garden, and guests are also guided from the entrance to the window and down the stairs there.
If you reduce the hallway, make sure the entrance area is not completely lost. The open and spacious feeling there is good. The view from the delivery person goes straight to the window facing the garden, and guests are also guided from the entrance to the window and down the stairs there.
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Pinkiponk31 Mar 2022 10:47Myrna_Loy schrieb:
Or their budget is higher than they want us to believe. 🙂 Yes, Kati is such a smart person, I’m sure she’s won big on “Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?” or something similar. And together with her husband, she wrote a program that only nerds could create—one that can predict the lottery numbers. That’s also why there are so few windows and the blinds are almost always down, so no one outside can see the screen and “steal” the program. ;-)
Congratulations, dear Kati. ;-)
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Benutzer20031 Mar 2022 10:49kati1337 schrieb:
50,000 for the garageSo that means €50,000 = $526 per square meter (49 sq ft) for a two-story garage with 95 m² (1,023 sq ft) built into the slope, within the thermal envelope, and using the same building materials as the house (at least that’s how the drawing looks). What world are you living in? I’m not upset, just trying to warn you about a harsh reality. That leaves just a modest €2,050 ($2,150 approx.) remaining for the house itself.
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