Hello everyone,
we (2 adults + 1 child [5 years old]) are currently planning to build a house and have obtained an initial offer from a smaller local home builder. I would like to share this with you and hope to get some opinions or suggestions for improvements. Please note that our planned building plot has not yet been officially designated as building land, so I cannot provide final details.
Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: ~1,600m² (17,222 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: -
Building volume ratio: -
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: -
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: hipped roof 23 degrees/27 degrees with approx. 60cm (24 inches) eaves overhang
Architectural style: classic urban villa
Orientation: -
Maximum heights/limitations: -
Other requirements: -
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: classic urban villa, hipped roof
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: m 35, f 37, child 5 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: see design
Office: family use or home office? Family use
Guest overnight stays per year: 6 times
Open or closed layout: open ground floor, closed upper floor
Traditional or modern construction: both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: currently not included
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons for choices:
- open living-dining-kitchen area; good room layout with minimal space lost to hallways, children’s room largest room upstairs
House design
Who designed it:
- planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- room layout on ground and upper floors
What do you dislike? Why?
- ground floor bathroom (sink and toilet too close to door or feels cramped – shower is required)
- walk-in closet/bedroom upstairs somewhat questionable (any possibility to rearrange without wasting space?)
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
~ 270,000€
Personal price limit for house, including fittings:
~ 250,000€
Preferred heating system:
- air-source heat pump
If you had to give up something, which features/finishes would that be?
- can give up: currently planned with only essentials included, not overloaded
- cannot give up: 2 bathrooms, fireplace
Why was the design made as it is? For example:
Design by planner based on corresponding requirements.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Would you change the overall layout/room sizes? Would you arrange anything differently or notice any poorly thought-out aspects? What would your ground floor bathroom look like – compact? (toilet, sink, shower)
we (2 adults + 1 child [5 years old]) are currently planning to build a house and have obtained an initial offer from a smaller local home builder. I would like to share this with you and hope to get some opinions or suggestions for improvements. Please note that our planned building plot has not yet been officially designated as building land, so I cannot provide final details.
Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: ~1,600m² (17,222 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: -
Building volume ratio: -
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: -
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: hipped roof 23 degrees/27 degrees with approx. 60cm (24 inches) eaves overhang
Architectural style: classic urban villa
Orientation: -
Maximum heights/limitations: -
Other requirements: -
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: classic urban villa, hipped roof
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: m 35, f 37, child 5 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: see design
Office: family use or home office? Family use
Guest overnight stays per year: 6 times
Open or closed layout: open ground floor, closed upper floor
Traditional or modern construction: both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: currently not included
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons for choices:
- open living-dining-kitchen area; good room layout with minimal space lost to hallways, children’s room largest room upstairs
House design
Who designed it:
- planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- room layout on ground and upper floors
What do you dislike? Why?
- ground floor bathroom (sink and toilet too close to door or feels cramped – shower is required)
- walk-in closet/bedroom upstairs somewhat questionable (any possibility to rearrange without wasting space?)
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
~ 270,000€
Personal price limit for house, including fittings:
~ 250,000€
Preferred heating system:
- air-source heat pump
If you had to give up something, which features/finishes would that be?
- can give up: currently planned with only essentials included, not overloaded
- cannot give up: 2 bathrooms, fireplace
Why was the design made as it is? For example:
Design by planner based on corresponding requirements.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Would you change the overall layout/room sizes? Would you arrange anything differently or notice any poorly thought-out aspects? What would your ground floor bathroom look like – compact? (toilet, sink, shower)
Toxic85 schrieb:
It should be noted that our planned building plot has not yet been officially designated as building land Then it’s still way too early for questions about the floor plan, and even more so for offers from construction companies.
Toxic85 schrieb:
Who created the design:
-Planner from a construction company What is their profession exactly?
I see you’ll have to duck your head under the stairs to enter the utility room. The walls upstairs are shown in a different color, indicating they are non-load-bearing, but there’s no explanation. If they don’t carry any load, why are they all built with masonry (I don’t see any lightweight partition or similar)?
Overall, everything looks hastily sketched without much care – but that’s understandable since it’s still uncertain when you will even become a client.
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Pinkiponk26 Aug 2020 18:41I really like the plot size of 1,600 sqm (17,220 sq ft). With a lot of outdoor space like that, I would prefer a bungalow because I honestly wouldn’t know what to do with so much garden area or how to maintain it. You have now decided on a townhouse with two full floors.
What I appreciate, such as large hallways, you don’t seem to like as much, so I won’t comment further on that. What stands out to me is that, in my view, there are far too few windows planned. Furthermore, in the living-kitchen area, I would plan three double casement windows on the end wall instead of one double casement and two single casement windows. Overall, I think there are too few windows and patio doors, especially considering the size of the plot, where neighbors are probably not as close as usual. I wouldn’t appreciate the walk-in closet being completely without natural light.
What I appreciate, such as large hallways, you don’t seem to like as much, so I won’t comment further on that. What stands out to me is that, in my view, there are far too few windows planned. Furthermore, in the living-kitchen area, I would plan three double casement windows on the end wall instead of one double casement and two single casement windows. Overall, I think there are too few windows and patio doors, especially considering the size of the plot, where neighbors are probably not as close as usual. I wouldn’t appreciate the walk-in closet being completely without natural light.
I don’t find the bathroom on the ground floor too small. Our ground floor bathroom has similar dimensions (325cm x 160cm) (128 inches x 63 inches). The only difference is that our door is on the long wall. I would extend the shower along the entire short side, then arrange the sink and toilet so that neither they nor you would collide with the door.
11ant schrieb:
Then you’re way too early to be asking about floor plan questions, and even more so for getting quotes from builders.Brief update on the current status: The draft for the new building plots just needs to be signed off at the next municipal meeting, then it will be finalized.
What would you focus on right now? For us, it was also about requesting quotes and, of course, prices to get an idea of whether we can afford it financially at all and how much loan we would need.
What does he do professionally?
Under the stairs, I see you’d have to duck your head to get into the utility room. Upstairs, only non-load-bearing walls are shown, in a different color, but without explanation. If they don’t carry any load, why are they all built as masonry walls (I don’t see any light partition walls or similar)?
Overall, it’s all drawn rather carelessly and quickly—but that’s understandable given that it’s still uncertain when you’d even become a client. - We chose this developer because some acquaintances built with them and were very satisfied. They handle planning, construction, and also supply building materials.
- The staircase to the upper floor tapers toward the door, so I don’t really see a head clearance issue. Compared to other staircases I’ve seen, this height is usually barely reached on the last steps.
- Regarding the upper floor, if I understand correctly, the walls are stud partitions with a thickness of 75mm (3 inches), double-clad on both sides with 12.5mm (0.5 inch) gypsum board; in the bathroom area, the boards are moisture-resistant plasterboards, including a 60mm (2.4 inch) partition wall that is finished ready for wallpaper.
Pinkiponk schrieb:
I really like the plot size of 1,600 sqm (0.4 acres). With a plot that size, I would prefer a bungalow because I honestly wouldn’t know what to do with so much garden space or how to maintain it. You’ve now decided on a townhouse with two full floors. Yes, that would be an alternative. However, the plot is rather long and not very square-shaped. Therefore, positioning a bungalow with a garage/carport added later would again be difficult.
What I like—large hallways—you don’t seem to prefer much, so I won’t comment further on that. What stands out to me is that there seem to be too few windows planned, in my opinion. Also, for the living-dining-kitchen area on the front side, I would plan three double casement windows instead of one double and two single casement ones. Basically, I think there are too few windows and patio doors, especially considering the size of the plot where neighbors presumably won’t be as close as usual. I wouldn’t appreciate a walk-in closet with no natural light at all. We’re not 100% certain about the windows on the front side yet. On the one hand, it’s about practicality, but my wife also pays attention to the external appearance.
The walk-in closet without natural light is so-so, you are right. But if we put a window there, we would lose the entire storage space along that wall side and only have the opposite sides left.
Pinky0301 schrieb:
I don’t find the ground floor bathroom too small. Our ground floor bathroom has similar dimensions (325cm x 160cm (128 inches x 63 inches)). The only difference is that our door is located on the long wall. I would place the shower along the entire short side, then arrange the sink and toilet so that neither objects nor the person collide with the door. How exactly does that work in your case? Our long wall is the kitchen wall, after all.
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