Hi, we are building a house with a very well-known prefab house company, and this is the preliminary floor plan.
Site Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100 sqm (11,840 sq ft)
No site development plan/land use restrictions
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – urban villa with hipped roof
Basement, floors – no basement, 2 full stories
Number of people, ages – mom, dad, 2 boys, and grandparents
Office: will be used as a naturopathic practice
Guest sleepers per year: many!
Open or closed architecture: open
Open kitchen
Number of dining seats: 6
Garage, carport: possibly carport
Wishes/Particulars/Daily routine: shared use of the practice by the client and grandma, who lives in the extension. Possibly a third child (hence a room on the ground floor with a shower).
House Design
Who designed it:
- Modified standard plan from a large prefab house company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Gallery + open ground floor, large floor-to-ceiling double windows
What do you dislike? Why?
- Possibly the living room is too small
Estimated price according to architect/designer:
- approx. 475,000 € (only the house, without land)
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 500,000 €
Preferred heating system: gas boiler and underfloor heating
If you had to give up anything, which details/extensions
- Could give up: possibly different window arrangement, possibly 2 bathrooms upstairs
- Cannot give up: 3rd children’s room and the practice
Why is the design like it is now? e.g.
See above: practice, possibly 3 children, multigenerational house
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
We searched a long time for the ideal house for us and my parents and finally found it. Before signing next week and starting construction, we want a last check. Any improvement suggestions? Maybe how to enlarge the living room? Thanks in advance. PS: we want to remove the windows marked in yellow. All windows in the house are floor-to-ceiling.
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Site Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100 sqm (11,840 sq ft)
No site development plan/land use restrictions
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type – urban villa with hipped roof
Basement, floors – no basement, 2 full stories
Number of people, ages – mom, dad, 2 boys, and grandparents
Office: will be used as a naturopathic practice
Guest sleepers per year: many!
Open or closed architecture: open
Open kitchen
Number of dining seats: 6
Garage, carport: possibly carport
Wishes/Particulars/Daily routine: shared use of the practice by the client and grandma, who lives in the extension. Possibly a third child (hence a room on the ground floor with a shower).
House Design
Who designed it:
- Modified standard plan from a large prefab house company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Gallery + open ground floor, large floor-to-ceiling double windows
What do you dislike? Why?
- Possibly the living room is too small
Estimated price according to architect/designer:
- approx. 475,000 € (only the house, without land)
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 500,000 €
Preferred heating system: gas boiler and underfloor heating
If you had to give up anything, which details/extensions
- Could give up: possibly different window arrangement, possibly 2 bathrooms upstairs
- Cannot give up: 3rd children’s room and the practice
Why is the design like it is now? e.g.
See above: practice, possibly 3 children, multigenerational house
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
We searched a long time for the ideal house for us and my parents and finally found it. Before signing next week and starting construction, we want a last check. Any improvement suggestions? Maybe how to enlarge the living room? Thanks in advance. PS: we want to remove the windows marked in yellow. All windows in the house are floor-to-ceiling.
haydee schrieb:
Height is 2.75 m (9 ft) according to the manufacturer’s website. Still relatively standard.
Do you need the kids’ bathroom upstairs?
How big is it?
Can the gallery (which isn’t really great with 3 kids anyway) be removed? So, finally I get to reply. The kids’ bathroom and the gallery appealed to us a lot, so we definitely wanted to keep them.
kaho674 schrieb:
I don’t find the bedroom that tight at all. The room width is 3.70m (12 feet). If we take a bed that is 1.90m (6 feet 3 inches) wide—which is a common size in smaller houses—you still have 90cm (35 inches) of walking space on both sides. If grandma now needed a wheelchair, the bed could still be pushed about 20cm (8 inches) toward grandpa.
I would really try to fit the technical installations into the extension. This would be my latest version with 1m (39 inches) doors for the seniors:
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I would at least insist on a 50cm (20 inches) deep wardrobe. Under the staircase—you are in the living room anyway with your clothes and shoes. You won’t even notice the 15cm (6 inches) wall offset for the guest room. The wall is just placed in front of the bay window instead of next to it. You lose only 0.09m² (1 ft²) of living space but gain a proper wardrobe!
For the kitchen, I would make sure to keep the 3.60m (12 feet) width. I would only add the narrow feature wall enclosing the kitchen cabinet if there is enough space. It would look better, otherwise, the door to the guest room looks squished at the edge. But it’s fine as long as it is just a 5cm (2 inches) drywall partition.Thank you very much, the changes are all great. I just spoke with the planning office and initially asked if we could have two possible variants costed out. Their reaction wasn’t very positive... The lady said that it is generally not planned to invest so much effort in the costing process and that we would definitely have to expect a 350€ change fee. We’ll see if they calculate both variants for us.
kaho674 schrieb:
I think the huge bathroom for the parents is beautiful – though it’s a bit of a shame that it’s only used by the parents, right? I’d also give it up for a third kids’ bedroom upstairs if we already had kid number three. But if that doesn’t work out, the dream bathroom is gone along with kid number three. oops:
Tough decision. Yes. We were torn on this for a long time as well. That’s why we really like the solution as it is now. I’m assuming our older son will want to move downstairs in a few years to have some peace away from his younger siblings, haha.
Gallery
Personally, I find these tiny holes terrible.
They are very impractical when it comes to sound transmission. We don’t have any, but otherwise, we have a relatively open floor plan. Over the weekend, I had the pleasure of experiencing the noise of three children. Acoustically, they felt like they were in my bedroom.
I would reconsider it.
Your living space is about the size needed for two children. They sleep there, play, have visitors, and do homework. You sleep there and will probably shower more often than take long baths.
Downstairs, you squeeze in one more room.
There is no space for grill charcoal, cleaning supplies, lawnmower, freezer, and so on.
That’s why the suggestion:
Plan a proper staircase to the attic space due to the lack of storage.
Personally, I find these tiny holes terrible.
They are very impractical when it comes to sound transmission. We don’t have any, but otherwise, we have a relatively open floor plan. Over the weekend, I had the pleasure of experiencing the noise of three children. Acoustically, they felt like they were in my bedroom.
I would reconsider it.
Your living space is about the size needed for two children. They sleep there, play, have visitors, and do homework. You sleep there and will probably shower more often than take long baths.
Downstairs, you squeeze in one more room.
There is no space for grill charcoal, cleaning supplies, lawnmower, freezer, and so on.
That’s why the suggestion:
Plan a proper staircase to the attic space due to the lack of storage.
haydee schrieb:
The master suite is spacious, and the only real challenge is arranging the furniture inside.
How safe the third child is has to be decided by the original poster. We often have overnight guests from my husband’s hometown. So, without a third child, it would just remain a guest room indefinitely. That’s fine too.