Hello.
We are planning to buy a plot of land in the Lüchow-Dannenberg district and build a wooden house on it. As usual, I have searched the internet for various construction companies, but I am struggling to understand the jungle of different completion stages and definitions of turnkey and so on.
The companies I have spoken to so far generally do not offer turnkey construction. However, from their experience, the cost after all trades is roughly 2500 € per square meter (2500 € per 10.8 square feet) (which would be turnkey). Does anyone know a house builder who can build more cheaply? Ideally, one based in Lower Saxony?
We don’t need much luxury to be happy. I can easily do without electric shutters, underfloor heating, a freestanding bathtub, and so on.
It would be great to have a gallery overlooking the living room, plenty of glass, and a fireplace or stove.
There should be at least three bedrooms and a living room.
120 square meters (1300 square feet) would be enough, but more would be preferable.
Does anyone have any ideas?
We are planning to buy a plot of land in the Lüchow-Dannenberg district and build a wooden house on it. As usual, I have searched the internet for various construction companies, but I am struggling to understand the jungle of different completion stages and definitions of turnkey and so on.
The companies I have spoken to so far generally do not offer turnkey construction. However, from their experience, the cost after all trades is roughly 2500 € per square meter (2500 € per 10.8 square feet) (which would be turnkey). Does anyone know a house builder who can build more cheaply? Ideally, one based in Lower Saxony?
We don’t need much luxury to be happy. I can easily do without electric shutters, underfloor heating, a freestanding bathtub, and so on.
It would be great to have a gallery overlooking the living room, plenty of glass, and a fireplace or stove.
There should be at least three bedrooms and a living room.
120 square meters (1300 square feet) would be enough, but more would be preferable.
Does anyone have any ideas?
haydee schrieb:
Don’t forget the additional construction costs, those are still missing I have that in mind.
To fully expose myself to ridicule, I should mention that my ambitious plan is to spend less than 400,000 € in total. Large plot included (14 €/m² (1.30 $/ft²))
Komysh schrieb:
Since I have never built a house before, I wonder why a house with a gallery must be so much more expensive than one without?Many points have been mentioned. Another factor is that open roof areas result in higher insulation costs.
Komysh schrieb:
Does anyone have experience with how much additional cost a gallery adds compared to a house without a gallery in terms of the price per square meter?We have a gallery with an open space (void). Without it, we would have about 30 sqm (320 sq ft) more living area. Since it is just the two of us, what we have is enough. The external dimensions of our house are about 10.50 x 10.50 meters (34.4 x 34.4 feet).
If we had built without the open space and instead closed off that area as an attic, it would have been about 5,000 € cheaper. So, if we now wanted 2 more rooms, we would need to build about 30 sqm (320 sq ft) larger, which would mean roughly 40,000 € additional costs (price per sqm calculated without sanitary fittings, since we already have those).
Komysh schrieb:
Considering that we don’t place much value on large bedrooms or a huge bathroom, I think it is definitely possible to have 3 bedrooms, plus a living room plus a gallery in a 130 square meter (1,400 sq ft) house. Whether that’s economically feasible is of course another matter.Should the kitchen and heating be included in that?
Komysh schrieb:
A gallery allows for an additional room. So, on 105 square meters (1,130 sq ft), we would have a gallery, 3 bedrooms, and a large living area. I cannot say whether the price is for a turnkey build.Then there would be no gallery anymore.
Komysh schrieb:
This house is just an example. My aim is to find out if there is any way to realize my idea of a wooden house under 300,000 €.Probably as a kit house.*Correction below.
There are companies where you can do the assembly yourself with some helpers. Then the technical installations and interior finishing come as separate costs.
Komysh schrieb:
If Sonnleitner, a company I would place in the higher price range, offers a 105 sqm (1,130 sq ft) house with fireplace and gallery for 278,000 € (presumably turnkey)Stop! That is a base price and generally excludes special features like a fireplace, balcony, or gable glazing. For timber/timber-frame houses, it should be assumed to be a shell house from the top of the foundation slab. You cannot assume turnkey at that price.
This is a house for 2 people from a high-end manufacturer with premium materials, including a basement and extras.
*I looked up Sonnleitner prices again:
Shell house about 170 sqm (1,830 sq ft), with inexpensive plaster, few windows, no extras like balconies or fireplaces, simple and plain, with interior trades extra.
To be frank: an open space or gallery is a luxury you have to be able to afford. You don’t need to reinvent the wheel in housebuilding.
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Caspar202024 Jan 2019 23:03Komysh schrieb:
a 105 m² (1,130 sq ft) house with a fireplace and a gallery for €278,000 (at that price, you can probably assume it's turnkey)Everything you see in the pictures as nice extras is definitely not included in the base price.
Also, turnkey is still quite a bit different from move-in ready.
Caspar2020 schrieb:
This also means that turnkey is still quite far from being ready to move in. Exactly!
Turnkey usually means without wall and floor coverings (and of course without the kitchen), and in timber or light-frame construction typically also without the concrete slab. That would already put you well above 300,000.
To move away from the topic of galleries for a moment, I wanted to ask if anyone has experience with house-building companies from abroad that specialize in wooden houses. We are also open to considering companies from Poland. It would be great if the discussion could focus on the companies themselves rather than the commonly discussed concerns. And please don’t worry—I’m not tempted to buy a Polish wooden house on eBay just to somehow fulfill my wish for a gallery...
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