ᐅ Single-sided or double-sided fireplace

Created on: 12 Nov 2018 09:56
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chrisw81
Dear forum members,

I am planning to build a single-family house and would like to have a masonry fireplace installed.

The fireplace will be placed between the living and dining areas. The chimney location is already fixed. The fireplace will be positioned next to the chimney and, depending on whether it is single-sided or double-sided, it will extend further into the room (see pictures).

I am generally okay with a single-sided fireplace, but I am unsure if I would have a good angled view of the glass from the sofa. That’s why I am considering an L-shaped fireplace, which allows a good angled view. This would almost act like a room divider, as it will probably extend about 80cm (31 inches) into the room.

What do you think about these ideas, or what would look better in your opinion?
Thanks!

Detaillierter 2D-Hausgrundriss mit Wohn-, Ess- und Kochbereich, Treppe und Eingang.


Detaillierter Grundriss eines Hauses mit offenem Wohnbereich, Küche und Treppe
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chrisw81
14 Nov 2018 09:53
11ant schrieb:
From my point of view, this would mean: "Worst-case assumption that the extension will never happen" equals "Result: heating so unnecessarily excessive that the fireplace would never be used." Which brings us back to my classic idea of having a thermally neutral HDTV fireplace ;-)

The fireplace is not meant for supplemental heating but to create a pleasant atmosphere, and not a digital one :-) Even stacked firewood looks nice.
My post is only about integrating it as harmoniously as possible into the living room.
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Deliverer
14 Nov 2018 10:11
chrisw81 schrieb:
The fireplace isn’t meant for heating, but to create a pleasant atmosphere,

And that is really worth that much money to you? How many square meters (at about €2000) over how many floors do you lose? What does the chimney cost, the additional work on the roof covering, the stove itself? And then the ongoing costs (chimney sweep), with which you could heat your house for four months on their own?! And you still have to deal with the heat...

But I know— you only build once! ;-)
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chrisw81
14 Nov 2018 13:39
Deliverer schrieb:
And you really think it’s worth that many purple bills? How many square meters (at about €2000) are you losing over how many floors? What does the chimney cost, the additional work on the roof covering, the stove itself? And then the ongoing costs (chimney sweep), which alone could heat your house for four months?! And you still have to get rid of the heat...

But I know – you only build once! ;-)

Yes, you’re right, you only build once. ;-)
Then I could start anywhere... how much do electric shutters cost and do I even need them? How much does underfloor heating cost, and wouldn’t radiators work as well? I included the fireplace because it fits our budget; otherwise, I would have left it out.
11ant14 Nov 2018 18:36
chrisw81 schrieb:
The fireplace is not meant for heating, but to create a nice atmosphere,

You don’t understand me, I was referring to:
Deliverer schrieb:
And you still have to get rid of the heat...

If you add heat when it’s not really needed, you end up with a sauna in the living room. That works against the atmosphere.

Therefore, my serious advice: use a flat screen, some drywall, and a Raspberry Pi with a random generator for flickering and crackling sounds. This saves the fireplace and the roof penetration (and makes the wardrobe in the bedroom happy).
chrisw81 schrieb:
I included the fireplace because it fits our budget,

With the money saved, as an analog fan you could buy a Transrotor Connoisseur ;-) and go on a spa vacation by the hotel fireplace.
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Mottenhausen
14 Nov 2018 23:36
The debate against fireplaces is getting a bit over the top, don’t you think? It’s their money, their house, their fireplace.

We use the tiled stove in our still-inhabited apartment: we light the stove in the evening. It then heats the entire apartment overnight more or less, so that by the next morning everything is warm, and the residual heat from the stove lasts throughout the day. The heat at night isn’t disturbing (no one sleeps in the living room), but the apartment gets warm enough to provide a comfortable climate during the day. The regular heating system is hardly needed as a result. The layout is very open, with an air space extending up to the second floor, so it’s not a separate enclosed living room.

We will also have a fireplace in our house. The better if then just three logs are enough. Even a small fire creates a good atmosphere. That’s what I want at home, not in a hotel. What a tip.

Also, it’s a nice feeling of self-sufficiency: to be able to sit in a warm house during a gas or power outage, to heat water or meals, and so on.
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Deliverer
15 Nov 2018 08:50
Mottenhausen schrieb:
However, a very open layout, with an atrium up to the second floor, etc. — no enclosed living room.

Yes, with a lot of open space, a fireplace is a great feature. Unfortunately, current construction costs mean there is usually less open space available.
Mottenhausen schrieb:
We are also planning to install a fireplace in the house. Even better if just three logs are enough.

I might be a bit out of date — but the fireplaces I know usually need at least five logs plus kindling before they draw properly and don’t just fill the neighborhood with black smoke...

Edit: Darn — now we’re discussing fireplaces again.... ;-)