ᐅ 165 sqm Floor Plan, Rural Bavaria – Opinions

Created on: 21 Jan 2019 09:50
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WilhelmRo
Hello,

we have chosen a plot of land and would appreciate your feedback on our floor plan.


Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: 920m² (9900 sq ft approx.)
Slope: 5.5% over 31m (102 ft) from north to south
Site occupancy index (floor area ratio): 0.4
Floor space index: 0.6
Building window, building line and boundary: 5m (16 ft) setback from the street
Number of storeys: II = ground floor + attic
Roof style: gable roof 45°
Maximum heights / limits: 4.6m (15 ft)
Additional requirements:
Knee walls are only allowed for II = ground floor plus attic buildings and up to a maximum height of 75cm (30 inches), measured from the top edge of the raw ceiling to the bottom edge of the rafter at the outer wall.
The ridge of roof extensions must be at least 0.8m (2 ft 7 inches) lower than the ridge of the main residential building.

Architectural style, roof style, building type: gable roof single-family house
Basement, number of storeys: No basement, ground floor + attic
Number of occupants, ages: He 31, she 28
Office: a little home office + occasional guests
open architecture
modern construction style

open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6 (or 8 including ends)
Fireplace: No
Garage
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine:
- Geothermal heat pump with deep drilling
- Ventilation system with heat recovery
- Monolithic 36cm (14 inch) brick walls
- Electrically operated roller shutters centrally controlled (via PLC) on the ground floor
- Kitchen island


House design
Designed by:
- Do-it-yourself
Price estimate based on forum experience:
Plot including additional costs: €58k
House including ancillary building costs for ceiling and walls: €450k

Personal budget limit for house including fittings:
€530k
Preferred heating technology:
Geothermal; if not possible, then air source
If you have to give up features / extensions, which ones would you omit:
- Kitchen island
- Geothermal heat


Why was the design created this way?
Based on the forum and what we actually need

What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?

The sloping ceilings concern me a bit. On the upper floor plan, I drew a 1.2m (4 ft) line, where the ceiling height should be 2m (6 ft 7 inches). I assume a knee wall of 80cm (31 inches) (since 75cm (30 inches) is measured on the outside). Otherwise, we hope you can point out “blind spots” we no longer see 🙂


Floor plan of a house with living room, dining area, kitchen, terrace, and utility room




2D house floor plan with bedrooms, bathroom, hallway, dressing room, and children’s rooms




Site plan of a plot with parcels, roads, and blue border



Site plan with parcels, color-marked plots, and house floor plans




Thank you in advance for your constructive criticism.
I hope we haven’t forgotten anything.

Best regards


Floor plan of a single-family house with living area, dining room, kitchen, office, hallway, and utility room


Site plan of a plot with parcels, building areas, and road layout
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WilhelmRo
21 Jan 2019 18:38
Müllerin schrieb:
Ps I still wouldn’t rule out a complete redesign – sometimes it can lead to something good 😉
I tried Katja’s suggestion for the upper floor, but it didn’t quite work in two areas (unfortunately), so I abandoned it again ;/

Otherwise, I agree with your description regarding the children’s rooms.

Regards
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Maria16
21 Jan 2019 18:45
Please allow for a finished dimension of 70cm (27.5 inches). Plaster and other finishes also require space.

It will probably end up looking like a very long corridor!
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WilhelmRo
21 Jan 2019 18:50
Maria16 schrieb:
Allow for a finished dimension of 70 cm (28 inches). Plaster and similar materials also require space.

The children's room windows still have plenty of room to be moved downwards 🙂
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ypg
21 Jan 2019 19:05
WilhelmRo schrieb:
Sorry, our opinions differ here.
2m x 5.2m (6.6 ft x 17 ft) plus full room height gable and sloping roof over the beds is not something I would call "impossible."

This isn’t a matter of opinion: the space is too narrow compared to its length. Your 2-meter (6.6 ft) dimension is just an estimate, and your 1-meter (3.3 ft) wide windows probably couldn’t accommodate a lintel.

Do what you want, but this hesitation with the upper floor only leads to making things worse.
A major redesign with a different building structure, specifically something deeper, can only bring advantages.

Sorry, but this cautious “it could be done better” approach no longer works.
I’m stating this clearly in 2019.
The concepts for the upper floor are okay, but if it doesn’t work upstairs, then it just doesn’t work. You should have realized this yourself when the utility room was still being squeezed in up there.
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Zaba12
21 Jan 2019 19:16
I bet an architect would verbally tear apart your design. Considering you’ve been following this forum for a while, the floor plan is, to put it mildly, quite... At least on the upper floor.

On the ground floor, the room layout is exactly as many people here recommend.
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WilhelmRo
21 Jan 2019 19:35
Structure of an argument:
  • 1) Thesis (claim)
  • 2) Support with arguments/examples
  • 3) Conclusion, summarizing the statements.
I welcome any further suggestions. Whether my planner will verbally criticize the whole thing remains to be seen.

Best regards

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